Klein's Fear

[BedellBrave]

I get the sense that Klein is beginning to not only fear Trump will win the R nomination, but will win the presidency...

Fearmongering? Or...?

[57Brave]

(R) had four years to recruit / create a candidate.
And this is what they have to show ?

Kinda like when Boehner left the Speakership, they weren't prepared.
Just like when they took control of the House, they weren't prepared
Kinda like when they took the Senate, they weren't prepared

Do we have a pattern here.

You voted for these clowns into governance on the flimsy excuse of their morality
Here we are 4 years later, Roe v Wade is right where it was, cake bakers around the country have to bake the cakes and all you have to show is Trump

Told you 4 years ago you had no bench
...

Newton 3rd Law. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction

[sturg33]

(R) had four years to recruit / create a candidate.
And this is what they have to show ?

Kinda like when Boehner left the Speakership, they weren't prepared.
Just like when they took control of the House, they weren't prepared
Kinda like when they took the Senate, they weren't prepared

Do we have a pattern here.

You voted for these clowns into governance on the flimsy excuse of their morality
Here we are 4 years later, Roe v Wade is right where it was, cake bakers around the country have to bake the cakes and all you have to show is Trump

Told you 4 years ago you had no bench
...

Newton 3rd Law. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction

It's funny how we can exchange these dumb posts almost verbatim with your team and it was be just as pointless and baseless

[57Brave]

and you have Trump

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The Rude Pundit ‏@rudepundit 1m1 minute ago

You guys are hilarious, thinking you can stop Trump with reason. Find an ex-mistress he forced to have an abortion. And that might work.
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[sturg33]

Trump isn't going to win the nomination... and if he does, then we'll get Bush's 5th term from Hilary

[57Brave]

your team

Team ?

[57Brave]

Trump isn't going to win the nomination... and if he does, then we'll get Bush's 5th term from Hilary

you are getting Hillary whether you like it or not. Funny thing is, Trump is your best hope
(R) has had 4 years to ...

instead voted 50 some times to repeal ACA or Benghazi or PP
everything but take care of business

[sturg33]

It's a good thing Hilary has a dictatorial ability to escape the law... she's doing quite well despite her fbi investigation. good for her

[sturg33]

I get the sense that Klein is beginning to not only fear Trump will win the R nomination, but will win the presidency...

Fearmongering? Or...?

Bedell, I'm no Trump fan... but I hate Rubio even more. This is a good article that sums up my thoughts pretty well

LINK: Why I'm more worried about Marco Rubio than Donald Trump

[BedellBrave]

Trump isn't going to win the nomination... and if he does, then we'll get Bush's 5th term from Hilary

You'd think. But that's seeming more and more to just be the conventional, even wishful thinking. Ds on here seem about as confident of the Donald's demise as Rs a few months ago.

Klein seems to really be getting antsy.

But have no fear 57 has the answers. Always does. He's always right too. Just ask him.

[BedellBrave]

Bedell, I'm no Trump fan... but I hate Rubio even more. This is a good article that sums up my thoughts pretty well

LINK: Why I'm more worried about Marco Rubio than Donald Trump

I actually think Rubio will be more status quo than anything. But I could be wrong. But if it makes money for Wall Street then figure on it happening with Rubio and with Clinton.

What happens if it's Trump just seems more unpredictable.

[57Brave]

It's a good thing Hilary has a dictatorial ability to escape the law... she's doing quite well despite her fbi investigation. good for her

I'm guessing you are in your mid to late twenties.

HRC has been under one investigation or another since you were either before you were born or in diapers.
All politically motivated and none of consequence.

This one I'd bet the farm comes to term much like the others

[sturg33]

I'm guessing you are in your mid to late twenties.

HRC has been under one investigation or another since you were either before you were born or in diapers.
All politically motivated and none of consequence.

This one I'd bet the farm comes to term much like the others

I'm certain you'll win your bet...

bc as history has shown us, she can get away with murder in this country

[Julio3000]

I've run the gamut on Trump for the last several months. I've been alternately puzzled, bemused, amused, distressed, etc. Like so many other people, I've waited for the "inevitable" bursting of the bubble, each time he's said or done something outrageous. Of course, it hasn't happened. I admitted a while ago that I went from thinking he had zero chance at the nomination, to thinking that he had a slim chance, to now figuring that it's approaching a coin flip. At this point, I'm not really afraid of his winning the election, but I'll concede that I've been wrong about him more than once to this point.

And while I said yesterday that I experienced no small amount of schadenfreude that Republicans appeared to be getting the candidate they deserved—for their fetishizing of wealth, for their anti-intellectualism, for their encouragement of nativism and everything else—today I've found that feeling dissolving into worry. Worry for what it means for our society, our politics, our identity. I'm still not particularly worried that he's going to become president, but I'm worried about what his ascent means for the future.

I tend to think that Trump's campaign has been smart and calculated rather than freewheeling, reactionary and ignorant, as it's been portrayed. I think he's a bully, and per the maxim about punching a bully in the nose, the way you curb this particular bully is by beating him. He was oddly deflated and detached-seeming after losing in Iowa. If this campaign is a massive ego-feed for him, his ego trip ends when he loses. It's just that the shower of mediocrities who've shared the stage with him haven't been able to pull it off yet. Lindsey Graham, after the first debate, said something to the effect of "I can't believe I'm losing to these guys." That says it all, to me. He's terrible, but what does it say about them that they can't seem to lay a glove on him?

I think the situation has come to a head because of the singular personality of Trump, but its roots are in the weakness of the Republican party. For years now it's been the captive of the Tea Party, where cutting off one's nose to spite one's face is pretty much the price of admission. They have no interest in governing and value purity over results, every time. That dynamic has continued to shrink the demographic appeal of the party, and I'm not really certain how that trend is going to be reversed.

There was a lot of comment from the national press about the appearance of Rubio on the stump in SC with Nikki Haley and Tim Scott. The picture that was painted was of youth and diversity, but the optics were just papering over the fact that the party's appeal has narrowed to a swath of folks who represent just the opposite. One thing I will say about Hillary is that, despite the jokes and memes about her courting the black vote in SC, or her attempts to run the table with female voters by any means necessary, she represents something more than window dressing. Her team and the various state apparati that support her are legitimately diverse across numerous fronts, and her appeal to women and minorities is probably more legitimately informed and earned than her detractors are willing to credit. The Trump phenomenon, for the moment, exists within the context of the party for whose nomination he's running. He's found a message that resonates with that crowd, and that's what's going to have to change.

[57Brave]

Does anyone know how,why or when Paul Ryan is not a candidate ?
Generally the last VP candidate even if the losing side has the front runner tag. Not this time.


Why ?

[weso1]

I actually think Rubio will be more status quo than anything. But I could be wrong. But if it makes money for Wall Street then figure on it happening with Rubio and with Clinton.

What happens if it's Trump just seems more unpredictable.

Bedell is close to being a Trump supporter. I feel it.

[57Brave]

Of course he is.

[BedellBrave]

What I find interesting (mildly) is that Ds lay the blame for Trump solely at the feet of Rs and never ever consider that their own push and agenda has something to do with it all...

Trump is winning because people hate you guys and want to punch you in the face. They see you as smug, self-righteous, and as a threat. You are Joy Behar. You are that leftie kid in school that was always so annoying.

[The Chosen One]

What I find interesting (mildly) is that Ds lay the blame for Trump solely at the feet of Rs and never ever consider that their own push and agenda has something to do with it all...

Trump is winning because people hate you guys and want to punch you in the face. They see you as smug, self-righteous, and as a threat. You are Joy Behar. You are that leftie kid in school that was always so annoying.

lol.

[BedellBrave]

;-)