Meme & Quote Thread

[Jaw]

The justice system disproportionately targets blacks? That should be easily proven with data.

[nsacpi]

The justice system disproportionately targets blacks? That should be easily proven with data.

Sentencing for crack vs powder cocaine. Whether intentional or not, the outcome has been some large racial disparities.

[thethe]

Sentencing for crack vs powder cocaine. Whether intentional or not, the outcome has been some large racial disparities.

There might be an adequate court representation issue that you’re glancing over in your quest to define America as systematically racist.

[Jaw]

Sentencing for crack vs powder cocaine. Whether intentional or not, the outcome has been some large racial disparities.

I take the term targeting to include intent. And if we're calling racial disparities targeting, then the Sixth Amendment requirement to provide a public defender certainly disproportionately favors blacks.

[nsacpi]

I take the term targeting to include intent. And if we're calling racial disparities targeting, then the Sixth Amendment requirement to provide a public defender certainly disproportionately favors blacks.

Generally data are not useful for showing intent.

[sturg33]

The modern day rorschach test is showing a leftist literally anything and all they see is black oppression

[cajunrevenge]

The justice system disproportionately targets blacks? That should be easily proven with data.

The justice system disproportionately targets poor people. Black people are just disproportionately poor.

[zitothebrave]

[goldfly]

There might be an adequate court representation issue that you’re glancing over in your quest to define America as systematically racist.

Man who could ever come to that conclusion by

Checking my notes

Looking at the founding document that said certain people that use to be equated to farm equipment are really only worth 3/5ths of a person


Weird anyone could think that lol

[sturg33]

And don't forget black people can't swim bc of that!

[Jaw]

[goldfly]

And don't forget black people can't swim bc of that!

You really are stupid as **** lol

[Runnin]

[zitothebrave]

Always enjoy the annual Republicans get outraged that bands like Rage Against the Machine are "woke"

[Jaw]

The justice system disproportionately targets poor people. Black people are just disproportionately poor.

You would be amazed at how much agreement there would be if everyone phrased this argument like you did, instead of race hustling identity politics.

[thethe]

You would be amazed at how much agreement there would be if everyone phrased this argument like you did, instead of race hustling identity politics.

Almost uniform agreement. But then the questions come up why t he majority of black people continue to be stagnant economically. Race based politics will quickly follow because the left doesn’t want to answer why their principle constituency has gotten little to no benefit for their voting.

[nsacpi]

You would be amazed at how much agreement there would be if everyone phrased this argument like you did, instead of race hustling identity politics.

It has always seemed to me there are disadvantaged people of all races and advantaged people of all races, and it is laziness (not to mention counterproductive) to use race as a proxy for whether someone is advantaged or disadvantaged. If we framed policy in terms of providing a helping hand to the disadvantaged, we'd move past a lot of these arguments that dont get us anywhere.

[McCann'sCans]

You would be amazed at how much agreement there would be if everyone phrased this argument like you did, instead of race hustling identity politics.

I actually came across a study about this very thing yesterday that supports this stance 100%. Essentially the study suggests that framing policy- particularly progressive policy- with a justification based on race decreases popularity on all sides while a framing based around economic class increases support on all sides: https://osf.io/tdkf3/

"We demonstrate that despite leftward shifts in public attitudes towards issues of racial equality, racial framing decreases support for race-neutral progressive policies. Generally, the class frame most successfully increases support for progressive policies across racial and political subgroups."

[zitothebrave]

[Julio3000]

I think the politics of race are minefield that is necessary to try to negotiate, because I agree that it’s worthwhile and necessary to acknowledge historical and ongoing injustices and inequities that are based on race. I also think that analysis should go hand-in-hand with a clear-eyed view of how our historical and contemporary politics have taken advantage of fissures along racial lines, dividing working people on those racial lines instead of class lines. Conservatives have stoked white resentment against a chosen “other,” while liberals have often focused on idpol and representation at the expense of any real structural change. There’s a lot that gets lost in the shuffle there—poor white people, rural black people, immigrants of other ethnicities—all people who would be empowered by class-based politics, all people who are kept apart by the same contemporary political forces.

It makes intuitive sense to people until it you call it Marxism, then it’s bad.