Meme & Quote Thread

[jpx7]

Can you show me where rich people and corporations aren't paying their taxes? (I'm aware the a few don't, legally, I might add)

There's a difference between "not paying taxes" (a crime) and "not paying a fair share of taxes" (legal, and essentially encouraged). I can't speak for Senator Sanders, but I don't believe the wealthy are illegally evading taxes; I just think there are a lot of aspects of personal and corporate wealth (and I'm speaking beyond mere income here) that should be taxed much more in order to provide more robust social services and a stronger, higher "safety-net" for all citizens.

[sturg33]

There's a difference between "not paying taxes" (a crime) and "not paying a fair share of taxes" (legal, and essentially encouraged). I can't speak for Senator Sanders, but I don't believe the wealthy are illegally evading taxes; I just think there are a lot of aspects of personal and corporate wealth (and I'm speaking beyond mere income here) that should be taxed much more in order to provide more robust social services and a stronger, higher "safety-net" for all citizens.

When Senator Sanders bitches about people not paying their fair share, yet he pays half of what you and I pay, while earning hundreds of thousands of dollars and buying 3 houses... It's kind of touch to take that seriously.

[Julio3000]

"The illogic of the Goverment's contentions is palpable. The notion that one can demonstrate animus toward any group of people only by targeting all of them at once is fundamentally flawed. The Court declines to relegate its Establishment Clause analysis to a purely mathematical exercise."

[jpx7]

It's kind of touch to take that seriously.

Not difficult to take seriously from me, which—as indicated—is for whom I'm speaking.

But my original point was simply that I don't believe he's an idiot, and being "tough to take seriously" isn't sufficient to qualify as "idiocy". Nonetheless, I don't hold Sanders up for hero-worship (even though he was my choice for nominee, and I think he represented a much better option than the failing candidate that party put forward); in fact, aside from a bit of additional affection as an alum from the same alma mater, I view Sanders as a useful vehicle for moving that party's messaging and policy proposals to the left, and signal-boosting generally, but that movement neither began nor will end with him.

[goldfly]

[sturg33]

I wish I could travel as much as goldy. Just don't have the means.

I'm sure goldy is willing to send me a check to make my wish, though

[Runnin]

[Runnin]

[zitothebrave]

Majoeirt od peoplw in Bernie's bracket paid 10-15% I don't have the numvers for people making 150M.

[57Brave]

[Jaw]

[57Brave]

As Winston Churchill once said, if you remove the arts (and Meals on Wheels, environmental protection, the State Department, etc.), then there is nothing really worth fighting for.

[Oklahomahawk]

I wish I could travel as much as goldy. Just don't have the means.

I'm sure goldy is willing to send me a check to make my wish, though

You and me both man!!! Can anybody guess how much longer I'd be teaching if I had "goldy-esque" money?

[sturg33]

[goldfly]

[sturg33]

Our tax system - described in beer

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this…

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing
The fifth would pay $1
The sixth would pay $3
The seventh would pay $7
The eighth would pay $12
The ninth would pay $18
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59
So, that’s what they decided to do.

The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball.

“Since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20″. Drinks for the ten men would now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men ? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?

The bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.

And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% saving).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% saving).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% saving).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% saving).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% saving).
Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.

“I only got a dollar out of the $20 saving,” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,”but he got $10!”

“Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!”

“That’s true!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back, when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!”

“Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison, “we didn’t get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!”

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

[goldfly]

millionaires how do they ever survive in america

[BedellBrave]

[sturg33]

Bernie probably thinks the higher rate means that he's getting more.

Math has never been his strongest suit

[The Chosen One]

Trump would pay for the entire tab then write it off as a loss.