Guy has been lights out and improving with every start. Thoughts on how he fits in for us in post season play? Better than you expected ? About the same? Should he go deeper?
Guy has been lights out and improving with every start. Thoughts on how he fits in for us in post season play? Better than you expected ? About the same? Should he go deeper?
Ivermectin Man
Too early to say right now.
We will cross that bridge when/if the time comes,
Right now, he's in the postseason rotation. I don't know if he'd be my number three, but I am open minded.
Braves1976 (08-16-2013), jpx7 (08-19-2013)
He has stepped up. He keeps pitching like he is and he's going to have to be considered for the playoff rotation. But if he's not in the rotation, he's a shoo-in for the 3rd LHP in the bullpen. Valuable guy.
He has to be in my postseason rotation. You use 4 starters in the rotation in a deep long series.
So what order do you pitch them? How do you think Fredi sets up the rotation?
Right now, my rotation in the post-season is Minor, Beachy, Teheran and Wood. Medlen to the bullpen.
I'm not ready to put Beachy in the postseason rotation. Not yet.
jpx7 (08-19-2013)
He'll be in the rotation barring a set-back health wise.Originally Posted by Gary82
Yeah, Fredi will.
I am having a terrible time coming to terms with the fact that the team is probably best served not resigning Tim Hudson.
Wood is the real deal, and that makes five. The only way you sign Huddy is if you want six and you're ready to have Wood in the bullpen, and that's clearly a waste. He's ready.
I expect Huddy will be brought back as the veteran of the rotation. Medlen will be traded or moved to the bullpen.
Medlen isn't going to bullpen.
Hsi value there would plummet pitching 1 inning, when he's shown he's fully capable of pitching 7-8 innings strong potentially.
He'll be traded before he ever goes to the bullpen, although I see the scenario of Hudson being let go more realistic, or Wood or Beachy being traded.
Forever Fredi
jpx7 (08-19-2013)
I wouldn't deal any of them. We are frigging loaded.
And I was right about Medlen, Beachy and Minor.
I wouldn't trade any either.
But if anyone wants to see a fairy tale of Hudson coming back, one has to go.
- Teheran has nothing left to prove in the minors after pitching sensationally as a rookie this year.
- If Wood has no regressions, he has no reason to go to AA after pitching half a season up here and proving himself.
- If Beachy has no regressions which looks like he has nowhere to go but up, he's not gonna be in the minors when he already established himself last year for 3 months, and this would be another 2 months.
- Minor has been our ACE tbh. He was pretty darn good but was in Medlen's shadow second half of last year, and he's been our most reliable starter this year the entire year.
- Medlen is the only guy that really has to prove something which I know is silly after his 10-0 run last year. His expectations are extremely high entering this season and he has not lived up to MadduxII so far this season. He could have more value in a trade potentially, that's why he's the only one I could see us realistically dealing.
Forever Fredi
I agree that it's more likely Medlen is traded. But I wouldn't rule out the Braves moving him to the bullpen. They almost did earlier this season. While that could hurt his trade value. The Braves might do it with plans to move him into the rotation later in the season (just like last year). I also disagree that Medlen has proven as much as you say. He's a good pitcher but more often than not he's only had two pitches going this year. He'll need to have three more consistently in the long run, IMO.
That said, Huddy's season this year before his injury was a lot better than most give him credit. He was great in three starts vs Washington (0.84 ERA), great vs the Mets in his other division games too. Plus he is still a proven winner every year who helps the young pitchers. Huddy didn't get to pad his record or stats by facing the worst in our division Miami this year.
Lastly, I don't know why we'd trade Beachy or Wood. If you ask me either being moved is very unlikely.
Last edited by Braves1976; 08-17-2013 at 01:33 AM.
Beachy and Wood would be under control for another team longer, which would mean we might have leverage if trying to unload BJ or sell off CJ on his career year.
Medlen's clock started 2009, so he's got 3 more years of arby I think?
Medlen had 2 main pitches last year, the difference is this year he's leaving pitches up in the zone for homeruns, and his command and he's not getting those calls he was last year.
He had a good curve last year, but his bread and butter was backdoor fastball inside to the lefty or outside to righty, and the swing and miss changeup. The last few starts have encouraged me that he's going back to that.
Forever Fredi
Beachy will be coming off a partial season after Tommy John. I doubt they trade him that soon. Plus I expect Beachy to get back to being very good again. Wood is the real deal so I'd not want to move him either.
Medlen is a free agent in 2016 so it makes sense to move him this off-season.
I think it might depend on the team we face and whether they are better vs lefties or righties.
Team OPS vs lefties
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Pirates .734
Dodger .721
Reds .705
Cards .661
Team OPS vs righties
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Cards .769
Dodgers .730
Reds .718
Pirates .697
vs Pirates you go with RH starter
vs Cards you got with the lefty - .100 OPS difference here
vs Reds/Dodgers it really doesnt matter.
There is still over a month to sort things out. I think Medlen is going to get the benefit of the doubt though.
I hope he can hold this impressive form for now! Ok, 5 starts is not that much to say he's an ace!
I'm a little concerned, that teams will "read" him. Right now you can see that his unconventional delivery is a problem for many batters. If they see him more and learn about him, everything can be different.
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