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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    I didn't say Harden was MJ because Harden isn't an ISO player. I'm just illustrating why your HOT TAKE is wrong. It has nothing to do with Harden.

    Well the stats and NBA evaluators agree that he's an MVP candidate this year. Why are they wrong? What's your hot take, Skip?
    What's it have to do with then?

    Steph is the MVP leader by a mile, he outplayed Harden last night on a back to back in Houston and are 3-0 vs Houston. Chef Curry is MVP, thats my take Chip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    What's it have to do with then?

    Steph is the MVP leader by a mile, he outplayed Harden last night on a back to back in Houston and are 3-0 vs Houston. Chef Curry is MVP, thats my take Chip.
    I don't know. You brought up ISO basketball not me. Harden isn't even an ISO player.

    You said Harden isn't an MVP level player. Except he has a lot of statistical and media support for being a candidate. But you don't think that and that's hes "not close" to that. Steph Curry has nothing to do with that. So why isn't he a candidate?

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    Harden isn't a candidate because of how insanely good Curry is. The MVP award is Steph Curry's to lose. Now what would be interesting is if you take both players off their teams and see what happens to Golden State and Houston. If we are going based off stats then Andrew Wiggins should be in the discussion too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    Harden isn't a candidate because of how insanely good Curry is. The MVP award is Steph Curry's to lose. Now what would be interesting is if you take both players off their teams and see what happens to Golden State and Houston. If we are going based off stats then Andrew Wiggins should be in the discussion too.
    I wonder what would happen if you took Korver off the Hawks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    Harden isn't a candidate because of how insanely good Curry is. The MVP award is Steph Curry's to lose. Now what would be interesting is if you take both players off their teams and see what happens to Golden State and Houston. If we are going based off stats then Andrew Wiggins should be in the discussion too.
    Steph is the MVP. Of course.

    But Harden is the number 2 candidate. This is acknowledged by everyone and up until 30 minutes ago when Heyward went on an anti Harden rant did I even think it was a thought.

    Silly Wiggins. He's not even remotely comparable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I wonder what would happen if you took Korver off the Hawks.
    Never say that please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Steph is the MVP. Of course.

    But Harden is the number 2 candidate. This is acknowledged by everyone and up until 30 minutes ago when Heyward went on an anti Harden rant did I even think it was a thought.

    Silly Wiggins. He's not even remotely comparable.
    Marc Gasol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Marc Gasol?
    Also a candidate. I love him.

    But using your logic. If you take away his ability to post up then he's an average player.

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    Here's a good article by Ethan Sherwood that talks about the MVP race being between Curry and Harden. He has Curry as a clear favorite.

    http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/b...arriors&id=271

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    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...His-Work-Ethic

    Joel Embiid now weighs close to 300 pounds, representing a substantial gain from his 250 pounds while at Kansas last year.

    Embiid's work ethic is being question by some within the Philadelphia 76ers.

    Embiid had a blowup with assistant strength and conditioning coach James Davis, which is one of the reasons he was sent home during the team's recent West Coast road trip.

    The Sixers are trying to address the added weight. Embiid, however, hasn't always been a willing workout participant, according to sources. He's even blown off conditioning drills, one source added.


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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...His-Work-Ethic

    Joel Embiid now weighs close to 300 pounds, representing a substantial gain from his 250 pounds while at Kansas last year.

    Embiid's work ethic is being question by some within the Philadelphia 76ers.

    Embiid had a blowup with assistant strength and conditioning coach James Davis, which is one of the reasons he was sent home during the team's recent West Coast road trip.

    The Sixers are trying to address the added weight. Embiid, however, hasn't always been a willing workout participant, according to sources. He's even blown off conditioning drills, one source added.


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    Ouch, no it's not. I haven't heard any of that, but I really don't pay much attention.

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    That's an awful sign but that can happen when you have a culture of losing on purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Love is not staying there. He isn't the type of plAyer you put next to Lebron. Love needs the ball in his hands more Lebron is so great with the ball that you need to su r round him with spot up shooters, cutters and roll big men love is not being utilized and he will go to a team that features him better.

    Wiggins is going to be a stud. What he's doing right now at his age plus his obvious project ability with his frame is really impressive.
    Love is a shooter. Blatt is an idiot and wants Love to post up
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Love is a shooter. Blatt is an idiot and wants Love to post up
    Love did a lot more than shooting for t he wolves. Why limit him?
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    So Waiters has been ok for the thunder so far. Didn't think it would work well but I certainly didn't believe it would work this well so soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So Waiters has been ok for the thunder so far. Didn't think it would work well but I certainly didn't believe it would work this well so soon.
    Having these chances in garbage time is the best way for the Thunder to get him used to his teammates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    Having these chances in garbage time is the best way for the Thunder to get him used to his teammates.
    I can't complain with what he's done. Thunder needed scoring off the bench and someone that could challenge his man defensively. I hope it lasts. Kid got drafted fourth overall just three years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Love did a lot more than shooting for t he wolves. Why limit him?
    They are limiting him now. Its either stand in corner or post up.

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    Man....who would have thiught that going into atlanta would be a tough game for the Thunder this week. Incredible how well coached they are.
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