NBA Thread

**gilesfan** · 03-01-2015, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by thethe

I wonder if the NBA is going to start looking at how the contact is being generated with him. He is teetering on the lines of playing outside of the spirit of the rules with how he plays.

Oh, give it up.

**Heyward** · 03-01-2015, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by gilesfan

Oh, give it up.

Is he wrong?

**Heyward** · 03-01-2015, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by gilesfan

Let me know when u want to post meaningful analytics.

Let me know when you do.

Other than your per 4343943439 crap.

**thethe** · 03-01-2015, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by chop2chip

They never seemed to care that much with Kobe who was very similar.

I could see a bit more emphasis on offensive flopping, but it's got to be the hardest thing in the world to police in real time.

Harden literally will throw his hands into the opposing defensive player while he is driving. I don't like it when KD does a similar version of the rip move. I don't remember Kobe doing a similar move. Again, I think its pushing the lines of what the rules were meant for.

**gilesfan** · 03-01-2015, 10:31 PM

Durant got to the line last year just as much as Harden this year and Westbrook is ever so slightly behind.

**gilesfan** · 03-01-2015, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Heyward

Let me know when you do.

Other than your per 4343943439 crap.

Go there basketball reference pages.

You know per 40 or per 48 or per 40 is a legit stat bc it equalizes the llaying field to a similar number of minutes? Though I personally like pace adjusted numbers more.

**Heyward** · 03-01-2015, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by gilesfan

Go there basketball reference pages.

You know per 40 or per 48 or per 40 is a legit stat bc it equalizes the llaying field to a similar number of minutes? Though I personally like pace adjusted numbers more.

Why does a per 48 minutes matter?

Why not just use the numbers they play in the minutes they do.

**thethe** · 03-01-2015, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by gilesfan

Durant got to the line last year just as much as Harden this year and Westbrook is ever so slightly behind.

If you think they are getting to the line in the same way that Harden is then I just contend that you don't want them play. Harden gets to the line by his swipe through move. Maybe you just don't watch Harden enough but I've seen plenty of his games throughout the years. Go back and watch some tape and you tell me if you think that Westbrook draws his fouls like that.

**gilesfan** · 03-01-2015, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Heyward

Why does a per 48 minutes matter?

Why not just use the numbers they play in the minutes they do.

Wouldnt you want to compare them assuming they played the same number of minutes?

**gilesfan** · 03-01-2015, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by thethe

If you think they are getting to the line in the same way that Harden is then I just contend that you don't want them play. Harden gets to the line by his swipe through move. Maybe you just don't watch Harden enough but I've seen plenty of his games throughout the years. Go back and watch some tape and you tell me if you think that Westbrook draws his fouls like that.

He draws contact from defenders and it shows high basketball IQ. Lets not act like Durant and Westbrook are Angles and Harden is a flopper

**Heyward** · 03-01-2015, 10:41 PM

Westbrook gets to the FT line alot b/c his size on most other PG's allows him to post them up which gets him to the FT line.

KD does it somewhat but Harden did it in OKC and it's worse now, nothing illegal but it's borderline flopping.

**Heyward** · 03-01-2015, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by gilesfan

Wouldnt you want to compare them assuming they played the same number of minutes?

Why not just use the stats they have without some per stat?

**thethe** · 03-01-2015, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by gilesfan

He draws contact from defenders and it shows high basketball IQ. Lets not act like Durant and Westbrook are Angles and Harden is a flopper

This has absolutely nothing to do with flopping.

**gilesfan** · 03-01-2015, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Heyward

Westbrook gets to the FT line alot b/c his size on most other PG's allows him to post them up which gets him to the FT line.

KD does it somewhat but Harden did it in OKC and it's worse now, nothing illegal but it's borderline flopping.

Its worse since he left "your team," huh?

So Westbrook gets fouled posting up?

**gilesfan** · 03-01-2015, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Heyward

Why not just use the stats they have without some per stat?

Do you compare hitters with 500 at bats to guys with 200?

**Heyward** · 03-01-2015, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by gilesfan

Its worse since he left "your team," huh?

So Westbrook gets fouled posting up?

He has a bigger role and it's more noticed now, it's not the worst thing ever but it's borderline flopping. Fantastic player but he gets away with alot to get to the FT line. He pretty much did the same thing when he was there, and lot of people talked about it.

Yes, there arent too many guards that can handle him when he posts up.

**Heyward** · 03-01-2015, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by gilesfan

Do you compare hitters with 500 at bats to guys with 200?

Nope.

**gilesfan** · 03-01-2015, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Heyward

Nope.

Why do you use that per at bat crap?

**Heyward** · 03-01-2015, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by gilesfan

Why do you use that per at bat crap?

I'd at least compare players with similar AB's if i was to compare certain players.

Or we could go by career numbers.

**thethe** · 03-01-2015, 10:54 PM

Please stop the torture. This is brutal. Why do you guys even engage to this degree?

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