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    Definitely. They could even be a 4/5 seed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Upgrade?
    Definitely defensively and he's a better shooter.

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    People tend to overlook pierces limitations because he made a couple shots late in the game.

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    Kings offer 4/64 to Matthews, good lord.

    David West to SA or the Wiz.

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    Wes Matthews Latest: ESPN sources say Matthews' camp has notified Kings he's unlikely to take their offer, making Dallas even more likely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
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    Wes Matthews Latest: ESPN sources say Matthews' camp has notified Kings he's unlikely to take their offer, making Dallas even more likely
    Awesome that the Kings made that trade with the assumption that both Monta and Wes would sign there.

    I can't think of a more disfunctional modern franchise.

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    David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt

    Wes Matthews has agreed in principle with the Mavericks on a four-year deal, per source. Turned down huge offer from Sacramento.

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    Yeah, the Kings made a GREAT trade.

    Worst ownership in the NBa.
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    Nate Jones ‏@JonesOnTheNBA 2h2 hours ago
    It's just so weird that people think superstars will sign with a bad team just because that team is in a large market. Never happens
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    Phils quietly had a good offseason adding Grant, Euro, Lopez, and Afflalo

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Awesome that the Kings made that trade with the assumption that both Monta and Wes would sign there.

    I can't think of a more disfunctional modern franchise.
    Not sure if they assumed those things and the franchise is certaiy a cluster****, but you are still overating what they gave up. A crappy player and a pick. Probably should wait to see what they do with the money saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Not sure if they assumed those things and the franchise is certaiy a cluster****, but you are still overating what they gave up. A crappy player and a pick. Probably should wait to see what they do with the money saved.
    They could have just cut those players and used the stretch provision for not that much of a difference and still kept their assets. It was a terrible move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Phils quietly had a good offseason adding Grant, Euro, Lopez, and Afflalo
    All good moves but the timing is just bad. I get that they don't have a first round pick next year but they are no better than a 6-8th seed assuming Melo is healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    They could have just cut those players and used the stretch provision for not that much of a difference and still kept their assets. It was a terrible move.
    They would still have to pay Landry and Thompson just at a pro rata basis plus an additiona year. Why does that make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    They would still have to pay Landry and Thompson just at a pro rata basis plus an additiona year. Why does that make sense?
    They are trying to free cap space and by doing that they woudl free cap space while still keeping assets for another move. Its clear they didn't NEED the cap space immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    They are trying to free cap space and by doing that they woudl free cap space while still keeping assets for another move. Its clear they didn't NEED the cap space immediately.
    They actually freed cap space instead of habing to pay for a guy for the next several years.

    The assets of Nik Stauskad and a non top 10 puck in 2018 doesnt get u much.

    Now they have flexibility to sign or trade

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Phils quietly had a good offseason adding Grant, Euro, Lopez, and Afflalo
    Maybe they'll win 30 games next year.

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    Knicks meeting with Brewer and Derrick Williams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Not sure if they assumed those things and the franchise is certaiy a cluster****, but you are still overating what they gave up. A crappy player and a pick. Probably should wait to see what they do with the money saved.
    They still gave up assets that have value (and pick swaps that could have a lot of value potentially) to sign players that have no interest to play there despite being paid more money.

    You have to be the only soul on earth that is borderline praising the Kings.

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