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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    What Wemby is doing is absurd though - Have to be concerned with bad team so someone has to get teh stats effect but i get it.

    And while I'm a big big big chet fan...I wouldn't be quick to give him second best player on the team just yet. What Jalen Williams is doing is absolutely ridiculous (both sides of the floor too like Chet).
    You know the Thunder better than me, so I’ll defer to you who has had the bigger impact. I just think Chet is a unicorn who is anchoring a top 5 defense and putting up absurd efficiency on offense.

    If Wemby switched places with Chet, Wemby would win this award unanimously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    You know the Thunder better than me, so I’ll defer to you who has had the bigger impact. I just think Chet is a unicorn who is anchoring a top 5 defense and putting up absurd efficiency on offense.

    If Wemby switched places with Chet, Wemby would win this award unanimously.
    Chet started out incredibly well but the rigor of the full season after missing out on last year is starting to wear him down.

    Whats great is that his defensive impact is still there and he still to this day is not turnover prone.

    But Jalen Williams is taking a leap where I think as soon as next season people will be saying he is a top 20 player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    I need Randle to not be seriously injured
    Seems like he should be back in a month thankfully.

    Unbelievable how competently the Knicks have been run under Leon Rose. No panic trades (Lillard or Mitchell). Smart under the radar free agent moves (Brunson and Hartelstein). Trading for guys that fit the roster (OG). Empowering the head coach who also isn’t a moron!!

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    Great game chop. ****ing Lauri with killer shots at the end.
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    Lauri > Spida :)

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    He’ll get hurt stepping off the plane, but I like Hayward on the Thunder! Still a good player

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    He’ll get hurt stepping off the plane, but I like Hayward on the Thunder! Still a good player
    He would be perfect in starting lineup over Giddey - So I think they need to find a way to get him to another squad. Problem is his value stinks right now.
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    Chop - Jalen Williams will be a top 15 starting next season. Look at his efficiency/volume. Out of this world. True three level scorer that can distribute and play high level defense.
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    Ben Simmons with another back injury. I know Harden didn't win it with Philly so it isn't like a win trade for Philly they lost 2 1s and didn't win. But I bet Brooklyn would love a max contract slot now. 30+M would look good actually on the floor.
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    Going to my first NBA game in a couple weeks for my nephews bday. Celtics @ Hawks.
    Last edited by Carp; 03-19-2024 at 10:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Going to my first NBA game in a couple weeks for my nephews bday. Celtics @ Hawks.
    Ended up being a great game!

    Congrats if you stayed till end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Ended up being a great game!

    Congrats if you stayed till end.
    We did indeed. Exciting game. I was technically rooting for the Hawks, but honestly I have no NBA allegiance, so I typically root for the players I like. Jason Tatum is legit and really fun to watch.

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    Lebron is a bitch. That is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Lebron is a bitch. That is all.
    Great post!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Lebron is the GOAT. That is all.
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    Lol. Not even a little close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Lol. Not even a little close.
    You can always tell how old someone is when they say Lebron is better than Jordan
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You can always tell how old someone is when they say Lebron is better than Jordan
    Anyone who thinks Jordan is better than LeBron only cares about rings.

    Bron 27.1 PPG 7.4 APG 7.5 RPG

    Jordan 30.1 PPG 5.3 APG 6.2 RPG

    It's even sillier when you look at cumulative stats

    LeBron 40474 Points to Jordan's 32292
    LeBRon 11009 Assists to Jordan's 5633
    LeBron 11185 TRB to Jordan's 6672

    Jordan is the best scorer of all time. But What LeBron adds in his ability to grab boards and assist.

    Add in as well LeBron's unprecedented agelessness. Jordan's 38 and 39 year old seasons were 21.2 PPG 5.9 RPG, and 4.4 APG, compare to BRon's 27.1 PPG 7.7 RPG 7.7 APG
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Anyone who thinks Jordan is better than LeBron only cares about rings.

    Bron 27.1 PPG 7.4 APG 7.5 RPG

    Jordan 30.1 PPG 5.3 APG 6.2 RPG

    It's even sillier when you look at cumulative stats

    LeBron 40474 Points to Jordan's 32292
    LeBRon 11009 Assists to Jordan's 5633
    LeBron 11185 TRB to Jordan's 6672

    Jordan is the best scorer of all time. But What LeBron adds in his ability to grab boards and assist.

    Add in as well LeBron's unprecedented agelessness. Jordan's 38 and 39 year old seasons were 21.2 PPG 5.9 RPG, and 4.4 APG, compare to BRon's 27.1 PPG 7.7 RPG 7.7 APG
    Inflated stat era - Jordan would get mauled on plays that are fouls in LEbrons era.

    Cumulative stats are irrelevant because James came in when he was 18 and has had UNBELIEVABLE longevity (Hello steroids). Lebron is one of the greatest to ever play but nobody dominated the league and games like Jordan did.

    If you want an award for best career then give it to Lebron. But best player of all time will always be Jordan (Well until Wemby finishes his career).
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Anyone who thinks Jordan is better than LeBron only cares about rings.

    Bron 27.1 PPG 7.4 APG 7.5 RPG

    Jordan 30.1 PPG 5.3 APG 6.2 RPG

    It's even sillier when you look at cumulative stats

    LeBron 40474 Points to Jordan's 32292
    LeBRon 11009 Assists to Jordan's 5633
    LeBron 11185 TRB to Jordan's 6672

    Jordan is the best scorer of all time. But What LeBron adds in his ability to grab boards and assist.

    Add in as well LeBron's unprecedented agelessness. Jordan's 38 and 39 year old seasons were 21.2 PPG 5.9 RPG, and 4.4 APG, compare to BRon's 27.1 PPG 7.7 RPG 7.7 APG

    Jordan was a better defender than Lebron could ever dream about. Not to mention you're comparing different eras. Scoring averages have increased pretty significantly over the last 35 years. Largely because people actually played defense in the 90's. Oh and let's not forget that Jordan didn't have the option to come out of high school directly to the NBA to held pad his career stats.

    And comparing Lebron's late years to Jordan, when Jordan returned to a terrible Wizards clearly out of shape is dumb too. MJ nearly had a dad bod when he returned to the wizards.

    And finally, if you watched both guys play, like most anyone born before 1990 has, it's easy to tell who was better.

    And if you want to talk about most dominant player of all time, it's easily Shaq. Completely unguardable. Rebound vacuum. And prime Shaq was an elite defender in the paint.
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