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    I go Jordan 1, LeBron 2, but I think it’s very close

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Okay. Now you’re just being spiteful
    STill has a ways to go but I think JOkic controls a basketball game at a level even higher than Lebron.

    Nobody is unseating the true GOAT though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    I go Jordan 1, LeBron 2, but I think it’s very close
    This is my opinion.

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    I go MJ, Kobe, Lebron personally.

    MJ and Kobe just had different levels of competitiveness. And Kobe's first ring without Shaq was the most impressive of any of the Championships all these guys have had, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I go MJ, Kobe, Lebron personally.

    MJ and Kobe just had different levels of competitiveness. And Kobe's first ring without Shaq was the most impressive of any of the Championships all these guys have had, imo.
    I don't get the Kobe love in this conversation personally.

    People pretend that Pau Gasol wasn't one of the best players in the league during htat second run.

    Kobe is an all timer but doens't deserve to be in the conversation with MJ/Lebron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Disagree. It took Roids for Bonds to pass Mays. That's ignoring the 300 lb Babe Ruth in the room.

    And as I said, Kareem and Jordan represent interesting points in basketball history. LeBron has blown everyone else out of the water.
    We can take it up in the baseball section if you want. But I don't give a **** about Ruth hitting homers against only whites with pitches he would see on a weekly basis. Mays took greenies along with every other player of that era. Don't let the media fool you bro. They all took performance enhancers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I go MJ, Kobe, Lebron personally.

    MJ and Kobe just had different levels of competitiveness. And Kobe's first ring without Shaq was the most impressive of any of the Championships all these guys have had, imo.
    Your opinion is out the door if you think Kobe belongs anywhere near the top 3. He's not even top 3 since 2000.

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    1) Jordan
    2) LeBron
    3) Kareem
    4) Magic
    5) Bird
    6) Wilt
    7) Russell
    [ Jokic when it’s all said and done??]
    8) Duncan
    9) Kobe
    10) Curry
    11) Shaq
    11) Olajuwon
    13) Durant

    My list that no one asked for. Any given day I’d probably order the 9-13 guys differently.
    Last edited by acesfull86; 04-26-2024 at 07:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    1) Jordan
    2) LeBron
    3) Kareem
    4) Magic
    5) Bird
    6) Wilt
    7) Russell
    [ Jokic when it’s all said and done??]
    8) Duncan
    9) Kobe
    10) Curry
    11) Shaq
    11) Olajuwon
    13) Durant

    My list that no one asked for. Any given day I’d probably order the 9-13 guys differently.
    I’d rank Duncan hire (Wilt lower) and Curry higher (Kobe lower). I would put Magic ahead of Kareem but what you have is probably more consensus.

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    KD for Giddey and 3 firsts

    Who says no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    I’d rank Duncan hire (Wilt lower) and Curry higher (Kobe lower). I would put Magic ahead of Kareem but what you have is probably more consensus.
    TBH, I think I prefer your list. If I was starting a team, I'd rather have Duncan than Wilt, and I'd rather have Curry than Kobe. Magic vs Kareem would be tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Your opinion is out the door if you think Kobe belongs anywhere near the top 3. He's not even top 3 since 2000.
    LMAO, dude take a seat. You're out of your damn mind.

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    Fake Goat LeBron just got run out of the playoffs in the 1st round again for the 2nd time in 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Fake Goat LeBron just got run out of the playoffs in the 1st round again for the 2nd time in 3 years.
    He turns 40 years old this year

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    Yeah - No slight on Lebron for not being able to beat the defending champs in the first round in his age 39 season.

    Lebron is all time great regardless. He's just not hte GOAT.
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    If LeBron losing to the defending champs in 1st round in his age 39 season is fair play…

    …Jordan averaged 20/6/3 (to LeBron’s 26/7/8) in his age 39 season and failed to qualify for the 1st round in a historically bad Eastern Conference

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    He turns 40 years old this year
    Ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Ok.
    It seems relevant does it not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    LMAO, dude take a seat. You're out of your damn mind.
    The person who thinks Kobe is top 3 all time has the nerve to say anyone else is out of their mind.

    Since 2000 Kobe is behind at least. LeBron, Paul, Duncan, Garnett, and Dirk. At least. ANd I'm sure newer guys like Durant, Harden and Steph will get past him before hitting 37 (his retirement age)

    Kobe is the most overrated player of all time in general. He's basically basketball's Derek Jeter.
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