The Nationals acquired David DeJesus earlier today after claiming him from the Cubs when the Cubs declined to pull him back. Now it appears they didn't really want him after all, because the Nats have now put him on waivers immediately. And there's not really a fit on that club for DeJesus, seems like they can mess up a wet dream right now.
The speculation is that they claimed him to block him to another team (someone even speculated that team being us).
Yeah, us picking up DeJesus could really signal the end of the Nationals' NL East hopes.Originally Posted by Braves1976
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If they still have such hope, then they're deluding themselves. The Braves might be celebrating the NL East division title by early Sept. at this rate. The division race is over. It's now just a matter of how early we clinch it officially. I don't even see the Nats getting back in the Wild Card race. They should get ready for next year.
Last edited by Braves1976; 08-19-2013 at 10:34 PM.
Is this real life?
What are the Nats doing?
NYCBrave (08-20-2013)
They must have forgotten that nobody ****s with DeJesus.
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like we would need another OF..
NYCBrave (08-20-2013)
No kidding, we barely have enough room for all those that we have now. Plus we have OF prospects in AAA that are probably ready but no room for them (Cunningham for example).
I would guess the Reds more so than us. They could use an extra OFer.
Nats released Bernadina as well. Hes had a horrible season, but a guy who used to own us in the past.
Its going to be an interesting offseason for them.
In a lot of ways their situation this offseason will be the same as ours after the 2011 collapse. They have a great core of talent and need to resist the temptation to overreact to a very disappointing season.
Yeah, well that's like your opinion, man.They must have forgotten that nobody ****s with DeJesus.
Last edited by conalthomas; 08-20-2013 at 01:39 PM.
The Nats' entire bench has really stunk it up. Moore, Suzuki, Lombardozzi, Tracy, and the soon-to-be departed Bernadina all sport sub-.600 OPS's. I don't know what was expected of some of these guys, but Moore and Lombardozzi looked like they could play last season and Bernadina has had his moments over the years. Benches don't win championships, but it's always nice to have some guys in waiting who can play a little bit.
I agree with nsacpi. The worst thing the Nats can do is panic. Nice top of the rotation and a decent starting line-up. Harper stays healthy all year, Rendon gets established, and they upgrade at C and 1B and they'll be okay.
The Nationals seem like they're built the opposite of the Braves: great top-shelf players, and just zero depth behind them.
Rendon/Desmond/Werth/Harper will all be good, and Ramos might be good too. But anytime anyone goes down, the guys who step in are playing at AA-levels of productivity.
Their pitching has been good rather than great this year, which is fine... except their bullpen blows. Again, hamstrung by something that "should" be a minor thing to fix.
jpx7 (08-20-2013)
People take the waiver wire way too seriously. Almost every player is put on the waiver wire. If a team offers something for Dejuses more than they gave up, maybe they let him go. Or he just stays as the 4th outfielder.
Temo, agree on depth for the most part. They have a lot of depth at certain positions (C, P), but some of the other spots they are weak at. This is directly correlated to having Bowden as a GM until 2009. You can build some top shelf prospects in a short amount of time, but in order to build depth in the organization, it takes years. They already have several really good prospects, but the depth has just started being established within the past 2 years once Roy Clark took the job and is in the lower minors. If you are the Nats, your core is Rendon/Desmond/Harper/Zimmerman/Ramos so build around them.
Agreed with 50 that the worst thing they could do is panic. They should just leave the rotation alone outside of a vet starter as insurance. Add a piece or 2 for position players/bench.
Outside of completely blowing it up (which I wouldn't expect), the spots they need to look at are CF and 1B. They have to figure out what to do with Span and Laroche.
I would consider Morales at first if I was them. I would probably keep Span.
Temo, the bullpen is essentially league average. They screwed up by not obtaining a more proved LOOGY or trying harder to re-sign Gonzalez or Gorzalany. That is an area they are def. going to have to look at as well as figuring out what to do with Soriano, who has turned into a train wreck the past week or 2. Thats an area they need depth in the organization in for sure.
Their bullpen is 22nd in the majors this year in ERA and WAR. However bullpens are fairly easy to fix. Starting pitching is 12th.
Position players are 23rd, but that's mostly because Lombardozzi, Tracy, Espinosa, and Bernadina were all hitting like pitchers while filling in for various players. Tough to win when you have 4 position players who are literally batting like they're pitchers.
Last edited by Temo; 08-20-2013 at 10:11 AM.
Who exactly are the Nationals really good prospects? Nationals did not have a good year on the farm aside from the ridiculous record of their GCL team.
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Goodwin (though they have a glut of OF as is and I think Werth is under contract for 4 more years) Cole, Purke, and more
They're not a stud farm system, but they have good players down there.
The Nats problem is that their top players are limited by their positions, most are OF and 3B and what's where they have the most strength in the majors since they already have 2 3B on the MLB roster (probably would be wise to consider moving Zimmerman to 1B)
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Ignoring the guys that graduated this year; Goodwin, Giolito, Cole, Skole (out for year), Souza. They also have some high upside starters in the lower levels that have battled injuries.
Goodwin K's a lot and doesn't have a lot of power. He isn't exactly young for his league. He is overhyped for his start in Rome when he was drafted. Not a bad prospect at all but if you are claiming him to be one of your best you are in trouble.
Cole/Gioloto are their best prospects and pitching is not an issue already for the Nats. Haren hurt them early in the year but lately he has been a stud. Nats need hitters and they have next to nothingo n the farm in terms of hitting.
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