Catchers

[msstate7]

AJ WAR = -0.8 (25 games)
Flowers WAR = -0.3 (22 games)
Bethancourt WAR = 0.3 (20 games)

Did we give up too early? I would've enjoyed watching bethancourt catch every day this year even if he failed.

[smootness]

I think we gave up too early (in reality, about 2 years ago). That said, there was something about him the organization just didn't believe in or like, so I'm not all that upset about it.

[The Chosen One]

In hindsight giving Mac a contract was something I wish we did. I know we had Gattis as a cheap option but Mac was such a great catcher. Framed pitches as well as Lucroy.

[msstate7]

Also, bethancourt is slugging at .578. AJ is at .264. Flowers at .338.

[Russ2dollas]

Yes we did

But I think flowers is going to be a good sign.

Sss applies. And catcher defensive metrics...

[msstate7]

Looking at dWAR...

AJ = -0.4
Flowers = -0.4
Bethancourt = 0.1

[nsacpi]

Catcher is our biggest organizational weakness. It is the one position that I would be willing to overpay some this off-season, whether it be overpay in a trade or FA acquisition. Any other trade I would want to "win" in terms of expected surplus value.

[Carp]

No.

Way to short of a sample size for CB. He has exactly 1 walk in 40 at bats. And a 1/10 BB/K ratio. That isn't going to cut it. He'll plummet back down before too long.

[The Chosen One]

Man there was a time we had Mac and Salty and then drafted Flowers and Bethancourt. What happened to our catcher depth.

[nsacpi]

Man there was a time we had Mac and Salty and then drafted Flowers and Bethancourt. What happened to our catcher depth.

Losing Laird was something too massive to overcome.

[msstate7]

Do we have any legitimate catching prospect in our farm right now? Also, who was the catcher we traded to the Cubs a few years back?

[cajunrevenge]

I am expecting a trade for Lucroy at some point. He is known to be very good at handling young pitchers.

[msstate7]

I am expecting a trade for Lucroy at some point. He is known to be very good at handling young pitchers.

That would be great. Wonder what lucroy would cost us in prospects

[blueagleace1]

Do we have any legitimate catching prospect in our farm right now? Also, who was the catcher we traded to the Cubs a few years back?

I believe you're referring to Victor Caratini

[atl717]

Trading for Lucroy would be awful. He's a catcher, he has likely had his best years. Might have a good year or two left in him. We need young talent.

[Braves1976]

I am expecting a trade for Lucroy at some point. He is known to be very good at handling young pitchers.

I like Lucroy but he'll demand a lot in a trade at the deadline and in a lost year all we'll get back is his option year 2017 before he becomes a free agent. I am not wanting to give up a lot for having him just for 2017. I'd rather sign Ramos to a multi-year deal via free agency than do that. We have money we need to spend somewhere anyhow.

[Braves1976]

I believe you're referring to Victor Caratini

Yes, Victor can hit but he's not much of a catcher defensively. A lot of passed balls last time I saw him in AA.

[blueagleace1]

Yes, Victor can hit but he's not much of a catcher defensively. A lot of passed balls last time I saw him in AA.

Yes that's why he was traded, Braves also had him try 3B before the trade as well. I was just answering his question.

[Braves1976]

Yes that's why he was traded, Braves also had him try 3B before the trade as well. I was just answering his question.

I know, I was just saying along with agreeing with you on who he is thinking about.

[msstate7]

I believe you're referring to Victor Caratini

Yep. I was just wondering how he turned out.