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    Quote Originally Posted by rico43 View Post
    Would we do Teheran and Vizcaino for Moncada and Benintendi?
    Hell yes. I'd toss in Cervenka and Orgando too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico43 View Post
    Would we do Teheran and Vizcaino for Moncada and Benintendi?
    We would in a heartbeat (or I would hope we would, I'd question the FO's sanity if they didn't), but no way in hell Boston would. They wouldn't move Moncada for those two by himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    We would in a heartbeat (or I would hope we would, I'd question the FO's sanity if they didn't), but no way in hell Boston would. They wouldn't move Moncada for those two by himself.
    Throw in Olivera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico43 View Post
    Throw in Olivera.
    I think it would probably take Aybar and Markakis too, I don't know if I'd be willing to go that far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    We would in a heartbeat (or I would hope we would, I'd question the FO's sanity if they didn't), but no way in hell Boston would. They wouldn't move Moncada for those two by himself.
    I disagree... Boston is in a win now mode and if they think the best SP on the market can put them over the top without giving up any major leaguers. They would entertain it at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    I disagree... Boston is in a win now mode and if they think the best SP on the market can put them over the top without giving up any major leaguers. They would entertain it at least.
    Feel free to name me the last top 5 prospect to be traded period, much less for a #2 starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    Feel free to name me the last top 5 prospect to be traded period, much less for a #2 starter.
    Moncada is an unrealistic pipe dream. I think Benintendi could be had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    Moncada is an unrealistic pipe dream. I think Benintendi could be had.
    Agreed, particularly with Benintendi scuffling a little bit at AA. I'd be ecstatic to get something like Benintendi and one of Kopech/Chavis for Julio. Some people have ridiculous expectations for a Julio trade, and are going to be sorely disappointed if we do trade him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    Agreed, particularly with Benintendi scuffling a little bit at AA. I'd be ecstatic to get something like Benintendi and one of Kopech/Chavis for Julio. Some people have ridiculous expectations for a Julio trade, and are going to be sorely disappointed if we do trade him.
    Folk were saying the same thing before Shelby was traded smh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    Agreed, particularly with Benintendi scuffling a little bit at AA. I'd be ecstatic to get something like Benintendi and one of Kopech/Chavis for Julio. Some people have ridiculous expectations for a Julio trade, and are going to be sorely disappointed if we do trade him.
    I'd be psyched for Benintendi and Chavis. Adding in Cervenka and another BP piece might get us a decent third piece too, someone in there 15-20 prospect range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay2033 View Post
    Folk were saying the same thing before Shelby was traded smh!


    Too bad most franchises aren't run by complete idiots like the D-backs are. The Red Sox most certainly aren't. Given that we aren't going to be trading Julio to the D-backs, if your standard is the Miller trade you are going to be disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    Some people have ridiculous expectations for a Julio trade, and are going to be sorely disappointed if we do trade him.
    Was about to post exactly this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    Feel free to name me the last top 5 prospect to be traded period, much less for a #2 starter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    Feel free to name me the last top 5 prospect to be traded period, much less for a #2 starter.
    Jesus Montero for Michael Pineda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    Feel free to name me the last top 5 prospect to be traded period, much less for a #2 starter.
    Samardzidja-Russell

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post


    Too bad most franchises aren't run by complete idiots like the D-backs are. The Red Sox most certainly aren't. Given that we aren't going to be trading Julio to the D-backs, if your standard is the Miller trade you are going to be disappointed.
    My point is you have no clue who's going to ne traded or not! If I'm Coppy he wouldn't go anywhere unless I get exactly what I want and I bet that's his stance.

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    Boston essentially paid $64 million signing bonus for Moncada. I can't see them trading him at all.

    However, we should shoot for the moon with Julio. He's the #1 target SP available which is followed by one of the weakest SP free agent classes in recent memory. You should get two impact players, or 1 impact player and 2-3 other role players if you trade him.

    As a Braes fan, I'm rooting for the Sox to lose so they get desperate for pitching and that the Yankees win so Vizcaino's value increases as the only closer on the market. Throw in some Rangers bullpen meltdowns and we should be able to maximize out two best trade chips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico43 View Post
    Would we do Teheran and Vizcaino for Moncada and Benintendi?
    Of course we would. But the Red Sox would never

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Samardzidja-Russell
    He wasn't a top 5 prospect when traded though, he was just a top 15ish that year. Striker's Montero example is probably the best I can think of, but Montero was always a player without a position, and had sat at AAA for multiple years, which lowered his value. He and Andy Marte as Cajun brought up are decent examples (though Marte was never higher than a 9th ranked prospect, and had dropped to about 15ish when traded after struggling in his first MLB action). But in both cases they are players that hung around the minors for a long time due to being extremely overrated. In the case of Montero the Yanks were trying to move him constantly.

    I can't think of a single top 10 prospect that was moved at peak value/hype like Moncada is at right now outside of Hanley and Maybin. Maybin of course went for Miggy, and Hanley for a package of an Ace in Beckett and an all-star type 3B in Lowell. So basically it took massive talent to get them, not a #2 starter type. And prospects are far more highly valued now than they were then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rico43 View Post
    Would we do Teheran and Vizcaino for Moncada and Benintendi?
    I'd do that for Teheran. They would have to throw in at least Swihart for Viz. We have all the leverage in this situation and we'd better use it.

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