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    2017 #1 Pick watch!

    10.Philadelphia Phillies 37 46 .446
    9. Arizona Diamondbacks 37 47 .440
    8. Milwaukee Brewers 35 46 .432
    7. Oakland Athletics 35 47 .427
    6. San Diego Padres 35 47 .427
    5. Tampa Bay Rays 33 48 .407
    4. Los Angeles Angels 33 49 .402
    3. Cincinnati Reds 30 53 .361
    2. Atlanta Braves 28 54 .341
    1. Minnesota Twins 27 54 .333




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    We're not going to finish in the top 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    We're not going to finish in the top 3.
    Uh...are we watching the same games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    We're not going to finish in the top 3.
    you are correct, we are going to finish ZERO (0). so awful that we don't even get called "bottom 3"
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    If I recall correctly, if there's a tie between records doesn't the team that finished worse in the previous year get the higher pick? So we'd end up with the number one pick in this scenario? Or is that backwards

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    yes you are correct, prior year's record is the tiebreaker. So, unless the Phillies or Reds tie us, we will own the tiebreaker over every other team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by praeceps93 View Post
    Uh...are we watching the same games?
    apparently more perceptively than you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravos4evr View Post
    yes you are correct, prior year's record is the tiebreaker. So, unless the Phillies or Reds tie us, we will own the tiebreaker over every other team.
    It's like a built in half game lead! Things are looking up in tomahawk country!

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    Quote Originally Posted by praeceps93 View Post
    If I recall correctly, if there's a tie between records doesn't the team that finished worse in the previous year get the higher pick? So we'd end up with the number one pick in this scenario? Or is that backwards
    adjusted...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    apparently more perceptively than you are
    you really think that the Braves are going to finish better than bottom 3 in baseball?

    right now the record is 20-46 for a .303 win% there are 96 games remaining, if this % continues they would end the year at roughly 48-114, (which is obviously going to be bottom 3 bad)

    NOW, if they magically played .500 the way in they'd go 68-94 which would have been in a 4 way tie for 4th worst record in 2015.

    if they win .400 the rest of the way, they end up 58- 104 which would probably be worst, but again easily bottom 3


    IMO, looking at the numbers, the only way you can expect them to finish better than bottom 3 is if you think they are going to play at or above .500 the rest of the season. and man..... that's a tall order
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    apparently more perceptively than you are
    In general, I'm pretty optimistic about our team. I think I'm one of the few who thinks we can make a quick turnaround next year with the right moves and some solid progression from our farm. But this year? Our offense is absolutely squalid, historically bad, and while you could expect some positive regression it's not like we have major pieces extremely ready to contribute in AAA or on the DL, just waiting to come out and save us. Our pitching, while promising in a number of guys, is still going through a lot of rough patches. And it's not like we're gonna be big buyers at the deadline to give us a push; in fact, we're much more likely to sell off our best contributors to seal up our future. So where, exactly, is the extra perception that you magically have that I don't?

    Let's take a look at the teams that might catch us at the moment: Twins are obviously playing just as terribly as we are, they have a good chance at the number one pick. They also have Miguel Sano and Byron Buxton, as well as Jose Berrios and Max Kepler, at the MLB level. While we might have the stronger farm overall, those are some very potent young pieces to have in the bigs at one time, and should any of them figure it out they could start winning games in a very even AL Central. The Reds are dominated by mental mistakes and a ****tastic bullpen, but they've also been missing AN ENTIRE MLB ROTATION to injury, with Cody Reed and Tyler Stephenson waiting in the wings. Bruce, Duvall, Votto, Phillips are very potent offensive pieces. The Padres are very likely to slide down closer to us in winning percentage, not a lot of good things happening for them and they're likely to be sellers as well. The Athletics are another team completely dominated by injuries.

    So...where exactly are you seeing these teams that are gonna completely unseat us if we continue on our current trajectory? Or even if we pick up the pace a little? I hate being negative, I don't think it serves much purpose, but at this point it's absolutely realistic to consider ourselves the worst overall team in baseball, let alone one of the 3 worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravos4evr View Post
    you really think that the Braves are going to finish better than bottom 3 in baseball?
    I do. We're not as bad as we've shown so far on offense. And the pitching is coming together. I expect we'll sell off some pieces ahead of the deadline, but I think we have some depth to partially compensate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by praeceps93 View Post
    So...where exactly are you seeing these teams that are gonna completely unseat us if we continue on our current trajectory?
    The teams I fear the most are the Twins, Reds and Padres. The Brewers could be really bad too if they traded Braun and Lucroy. The Phillies also have some potential as spoilers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I do. We're not as bad as we've shown so far on offense. And the pitching is coming together. I expect we'll sell off some pieces ahead of the deadline, but I think we have some depth to partially compensate.
    yeah, but with our banked record, it would take a .500 record to finish 4th worst right now. you really think we are going to go .500 or BETTER?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravos4evr View Post
    yeah, but with our banked record, it would take a .500 record to finish 4th worst right now. you really think we are going to go .500 or BETTER?
    I don't expect us to play .500 or better. But I think the competition for the bottom is gonna be tough this year. Tougher than recent years. We could have five or six teams finish under .400. Its gonna be an exciting race to follow. My prediction is we're not going to make the bottom three.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I don't expect us to play .500 or better. But I think the competition for the bottom is gonna be tough this year. Tougher than recent years. We could have five or six teams finish under .400. Its gonna be an exciting race to follow. My prediction is we're not going to make the bottom three.
    I think we give 120 losses a run for it's money
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravos4evr View Post
    I think we give 120 losses a run for it's money
    Highly unlikely imo.

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    If Teheran and Viz are traded we are without a doubt bottom 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    If Teheran and Viz are traded we are without a doubt bottom 3.
    JC has said we're only trading them for major league ready pieces.

    I think the teams we're competing against are more likely to trade established major league players for guys far away from the majors.

    The Brewers could move Lucroy and Braun. The Reds Votto, Phillips and Bruce. The Padres have moved Shields and could move Myers and Kemp.
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    Also have to factor in the FO might call up Dansby or Ozzie and they might add some wins.
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