Will be interesting to see what happens next. Stock market futures sharply down.
Will be interesting to see what happens next. Stock market futures sharply down.
Chopping With The Braves And Rolling With The Tide
a nice middle finger to socialism
Indeed it is. I like it.Originally Posted by sturg33
Chopping With The Braves And Rolling With The Tide
weird to think it's a vote against socialism
Cameron to resign
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
jpx7 (06-24-2016)
I was rooting for this to happen. I think Britain can do much better in its own.
No shock there
why?
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
In a few years it will probably just be England+Wales.
Already started chatter for a reunification of Ireland, and Scotland voted to remain. Scots also voted to stay in UK assuming there wouldn't be a Brexit.
Wales is interesting because they receive a lot of money from EU and voted for Brexit.
Forever Fredi
jpx7 (06-24-2016)
Not really. The left largely leans Euro-sceptical; they have different reservations and objections than the far-right, but if anything this is a middle-finger to centrism. The big blow this strikes is against British big-business and finance, at least in the near- and mid-term.
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
Like Fearless Leader said, it's very likely it will be not just Britain, but England (and Wales), going alone.
I, too, would like to hear your reasoning for thinking this will be "much better" for Britain.
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
Every single British person I know or have talked to about this was for staying
the people i know that are happy they left, Trump supporters, young libertarians here in the USA and 2 brazilians who love some Ron paul
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
I guess this is thread to come to for hot takes on European politics, filtered through American ideology.
jpx7 (06-24-2016), Metaphysicist (06-25-2016), zitothebrave (06-24-2016)
The EU is weak, getting weaker and has started making some really terrible decisions. ANY idea of allowing Turkey in is total folly , and not just because of the migrant thing (which ,IMO, would cut a swathe of crappiness across Europe even more than it has already) but because of the awful human rights and press freedom issues going on there. If they let them in, it's the beginning of the end, in fact, there is talk the Dutch may try to leave next. It was mistake from the beginning , the EU I mean, too many countries there (cough cough Spain, Greece, Italy) have zero idea on fiscal responsibility and are happy to suckle at the teat of the other nations.
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy"- Tom Waits
The enormous amount of complexity and uncertainty makes it hard for me to have an opinion one way or the other.
THat would be like saying Canada leaving NAFTA is a middle finger to socialism. If anything UK leaving the EU is a middle finger to the open European Market.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
jpx7 (06-24-2016)
I just want to say, I have no idea what's best for English, Welsh, and Scottish interests. All I know is this is a pretty big deal. And I fear it bodes well for Trump...
jpx7 (06-24-2016)
Yeah, and honestly we don't live there. It seems like the people who backed this were the Trump type jingoists. The younger crowd largely like the EU and the flexibility it offered. I think big picture not much will change. EU lost a big player, but they still have their biggest (Germany) and I think the UK will rejoin down the line when this doesn't improve things.
As it is Scotland is almost for sure gonna leave the UK and join the EU.
All I know is that everyone is losing their minds and the market is tanking. If tanks enough I may have to get some more skin in the game.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
In one way yes, in another Obama's approval rating is still extremely high. If Obama keeps a 45+% approval rating, Hillary should still win. Remember Bush had an approval rating of liek 30 during the election season. Obama at 50+ which where he's at now would bode very well for Hillary as people would be more inclined to keep the status quo. Though if the economy truly tanks because the UK referendum (which if it does, **** Wall Street, UK can't even leave for 2 years) then that will reflect poorly on Obama and CLinton will be screwed.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Clinton's was pretty high when he left office. Didn't help Gore.
Forever Fredi
zitothebrave (06-24-2016)
For purely Scottish (and Northern Irish) interests, this is likely a good thing, insofar as it likely spells formal division.
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
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