7/5 MINORS TUESDAY THREAD .... M-Braves overcome another Thurman start

[msstate7]

Albies has dominated AA. And Wooten has made a case for a callup.

If we wanna keep Albies and Swanson together, probably time to move them both to AAA

[50PoundHead]

Hursh seems to have found his footing. 40-man roster decision looming on him, so it's the right time for him to step up. He still has iffy peripherals, but he's got that heavy fastball that can sometimes translate.

As per Clouse, Braves' Upper Midwest scouts worked pretty hard this spring. Clouse's teammate at Davenport College in Michigan--Brandon T. White (not to be confused with Brandon S. White)--was the team's 13th round pick and Jackson Pokorney was our 29th round pick out of a high school in Evansville, Indiana. Add to that two guys out of Rend Lake CC in Illinois--Zach Becherer and the unsigned Dayton Tripp--and the Braves mined the region fairly aggressively.

[Tapate50]

If we wanna keep Albies and Swanson together, probably time to move them both to AAA

I wouldn't. Keeping their service time clocks on the favorable side is big. Keep them together in AA to finish the year. Start them in AAA, then bigs in July.

[Tapate50]

Both of you take a chill pill, or else...

Im sooooo chill dude.

[nsacpi]

My preferred course with Albies/Swanson:

1) Promote to AAA for the last month of this season

2) Have some placeholders start the 2017 season on the major league roster at second and short (the usual suspects will do: Peterson, Beckham, D'Arnaud, KJ, Castro).

3) Promote Albies/Swanson to the majors once their play in AAA shows they are ready. We don't have to promote them together.

I suspect they would both be about 2 win players if they spent all of 2017 on the major league roster. Their placeholders are not. But I'm willing to sacrifice a little at the start of the season to get the extra year of service time. Eventually, I would like to extent them, but there are no guarantees in that regard so the extra year of service time might be of significance.

[CJ9]

My preferred course with Albies/Swanson:

1) Promote to AAA for the last month of this season

2) Have some placeholders start the 2017 season on the major league roster at second and short (the usual suspects will do: Peterson, Beckham, D'Arnaud, KJ, Castro).

3) Promote Albies/Swanson to the majors once their play in AAA shows they are ready. We don't have to promote them together.

I suspect they would both be about 2 win players if they spent all of 2017 on the major league roster. Their placeholders are not. But I'm willing to sacrifice a little at the start of the season to get the extra year of service time. Eventually, I would like to extent them, but there are no guarantees in that regard so the extra year of service time might be of significance.

Totally agree with this, but I don't think the Braves do. They seem pretty set on giving Albies and Swanson some time at the big leagues this year. As long as they keep hitting, I'd imagine that would happen.

I'd be shocked if they didn't start both in the middle of the infield next year to open the season with the new park, but I'm not going to be happy about it. It just makes so much sense for a team that won't compete to be careful with guys and get that extra year of service time.

[bravesfanMatt]

Hursh seems to have found his footing. 40-man roster decision looming on him, so it's the right time for him to step up. He still has iffy peripherals, but he's got that heavy fastball that can sometimes translate.

As per Clouse, Braves' Upper Midwest scouts worked pretty hard this spring. Clouse's teammate at Davenport College in Michigan--Brandon T. White (not to be confused with Brandon S. White)--was the team's 13th round pick and Jackson Pokorney was our 29th round pick out of a high school in Evansville, Indiana. Add to that two guys out of Rend Lake CC in Illinois--Zach Becherer and the unsigned Dayton Tripp--and the Braves mined the region fairly aggressively.

Hursh needs to be promoted fairly soon. He is too old for AA and repeating for the 3rd time. If he can't hack AAA this time around he needs to be left unprotected.

[nsacpi]

I suspect if we left guys like Hursh, Lien and Camargo off the 40-man that they would not be at great risk of being lost via the Rule 5 draft. To me it is a gamble worth taking with all three.

[bravesfanMatt]

I suspect if we left guys like Hursh, Lien and Camargo off the 40-man that they would not be at great risk of being lost via the Rule 5 draft. To me it is a gamble worth taking with all three.

Hursh would be the only one I would be worried about.. but I guess if he stays in AA all year, I doubt a team would take him and put him on their 25 man.

[sturg33]

Rico - this is about the 3rd time I've seen heyward post or imply that people were panicking over Allard's first two starts this year... it's just not true

[Tapate50]

Rico - this is about the 3rd time I've seen heyward post or imply that people were panicking over Allard's first two starts this year... it's just not true

People did panick...as a joke.

"Allard struggled again today.... BUST".

"Allard with his second iffy start in a row... Cut him now"

[auyushu]

My preferred course with Albies/Swanson:

This is what I hope to see as well, as much as I think the new park will cause them to do otherwise.

[sturg33]

People did panick...as a joke.

"Allard struggled again today.... BUST".

"Allard with his second iffy start in a row... Cut him now"

Yes... there was a lot of sarcastic comments... but heyward doing his typical BS is annoying as hell.

[yeezus]

Yes... there was a lot of sarcastic comments... but heyward doing his typical BS is annoying as hell.

but honestly, you do the same thing. like when wood would pitch well or (the real) heyward would get hot, you'd say stuff like "well jason heyward still sucks i guess!" despite no one ever saying that.

in the end, you're worrying too much about what (the fake) heyward is saying. who cares.

[50PoundHead]

I suspect if we left guys like Hursh, Lien and Camargo off the 40-man that they would not be at great risk of being lost via the Rule 5 draft. To me it is a gamble worth taking with all three.

I think of the three, Camargo would be the most likely to be drafted by someone. He could go to an AL club and be the 25th guy. He highlights the problem with Latin players. You have five years to make a 40-man decision on them and they are 16 or 17 when they sign, which means they are 21 or 22 when the decision has to be made and many of them still have some room for physical growth at that point. Camargo's HRs and 2Bs are up this year (most of the rest of his stats are down a bit), so that might be an indication that he's learning to turn on the ball.

[sturg33]

but honestly, you do the same thing. like when wood would pitch well or (the real) heyward would get hot, you'd say stuff like "well jason heyward still sucks i guess!" despite no one ever saying that.

in the end, you're worrying too much about what (the fake) heyward is saying. who cares.

You're right about that (caring too much).

[Enscheff]

I wouldn't. Keeping their service time clocks on the favorable side is big. Keep them together in AA to finish the year. Start them in AAA, then bigs in July.

The new CBA is likely going to make it much harder to keep a player down for the beginning of the year to gain an extra year of control. It might end up being 2-3 months instead of 2-3 weeks starting next season.

[bravesfanMatt]

I think of the three, Camargo would be the most likely to be drafted by someone. He could go to an AL club and be the 25th guy. He highlights the problem with Latin players. You have five years to make a 40-man decision on them and they are 16 or 17 when they sign, which means they are 21 or 22 when the decision has to be made and many of them still have some room for physical growth at that point. Camargo's HRs and 2Bs are up this year (most of the rest of his stats are down a bit), so that might be an indication that he's learning to turn on the ball.

I don't think Camargo would be taken by a club. A 22 year old who is still in AA..maybe AAA by year end and hasn't hit above utility infielder/OF status is not going to be worth adding to your 25 man for a year. And if he is taken, he is replaceable IMO..