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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Can't tell if serious. But you've lost your mind if you are
    You must be new here. This is THE PLACE to overvalue prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    If we finish the year at our current win pace (74), how do we realistically add 15 wins to the team to be able to contend? I think 2020 is the most realistic target for being dangerous
    Dansby, Ozzie, Acuna and improved pitching in the coming years.

    And finding a long-term 3B, not that hard to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Dansby: 2-3 WAR
    Albies: 3 WAR
    Acuna: 3-4 WAR

    That gets you 8-10 right there. Add an improved pitching staff (it wouldn't have to be all that great to be improved from its current state) and get a serviceable 3B, and you're basically there.
    Acuna gets better every minute at baseball. It's harder to predict his WAR more than any of our prospects. Two months from now he'll be the best fielding shortstop in the minors, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    You must be new here. This is THE PLACE to overvalue prospects.
    Even with SJ24 here, I give the crown to TalkingChop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Dansby: 2-3 WAR
    Albies: 3 WAR
    Acuna: 3-4 WAR

    That gets you 8-10 right there. Add an improved pitching staff (it wouldn't have to be all that great to be improved from its current state) and get a serviceable 3B, and you're basically there.
    Phillips will end the season at 2 fWAR. So if those numbers are correct you would see a 6.5-8.5 increase. But that's a lot to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Phillips will end the season at 2 fWAR. So if those numbers are correct you would see a 6.5-8.5 increase. But that's a lot to ask.
    I agree. It's asking a lot for these guys. I do think our D has been so bad that if you just go by pure WAR we should see some major improvements if we use young guys at the corner OF spot, 3B, SS and 2B.

    I'd also expect our catcher WAR to go down. Maybe even 1B b/c FF and Adams mashed so.

    Peterson-1 WAR
    Acuna-2 WAR
    SS (either comargo or Dansby will do better)-1 WAR.
    Bench has got to be better-1 WAR

    If we really try next year I think we have to do a trade or get a FA that will give us 3+ WAR at 3B.

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    Unfortunately, our corner OFs are under contract for more years... so unless the FO is willing to release them, I think we're stuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Phillips will end the season at 2 fWAR. So if those numbers are correct you would see a 6.5-8.5 increase. But that's a lot to ask.
    It is, was just showing how it's possible. I think by 2019, those are all very doable numbers for those guys. We're talking about 3 guys who are all top 10 prospects essentially. Again, will they all get to that level? Maybe not, but can they cover that as a group? I think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Unfortunately, our corner OFs are under contract for more years... so unless the FO is willing to release them, I think we're stuck
    Markakis is only under contract for 1 more, Kemp for 2.

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    Prior to games on 8/3/17...

    1.) Phillies...39-66
    2.) Giants...41-68
    3.) White Sox...41-64
    4.) Reds...44-63
    5.) Athletics...48-60
    6.) Padres...48-59
    7.) Tigers...49-57
    7.) Braves...49-57
    9.) Mutts...49-56
    10.) Blue Jays...51-57
    11.) Rangers...51-56
    12.) Marlins...51-55
    13.) Twins...51-54
    14.) Pirates...51-56
    15.) Angels...53-55
    16.) Orioles...53-54
    16.) Cardinals...53-54


    That's everyone below .500.
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    It is, was just showing how it's possible. I think by 2019, those are all very doable numbers for those guys. We're talking about 3 guys who are all top 10 prospects essentially. Again, will they all get to that level? Maybe not, but can they cover that as a group? I think so.
    I agree that in a a year or two that's possible and likely to be honest. I've always thought 2019 was the first true year we are contenders when you take into consideration the our first wave of great prospects will have some time at the MLB level by then. I just don't expect rookies to come out playing like all-stars.

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    Really excited for the 2018 draft so I can live with tanking if it happens. Next year is going to be all kinds of fun no matter how we end this second half.
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    It will be hard for the Braves to get below the Phillies...unless they play the Phillies many, many more times.

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    Up to 7th, 1 back in L column of SD for 6th, two back of Oakland in L column for 5th.

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    Don't look now, but we're creeping up on the Reds, Padres, and Giants with the White Sox and Phillies in striking distance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    Don't look now, but we're creeping up on the Reds, Padres, and Giants with the White Sox and Phillies in striking distance!
    We need to pull off a September 2011 run to seal the deal.
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    1. Phillies- 42-69
    2. White Sox- 43-68
    3. Giants- 46-70
    4. Reds- 47-67
    5. Athletics- 50-64
    6. Padres- 50-63
    7. Mets- 50-61
    8. Braves- 51-61

    We can absolutely do it. Make up for last year.

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    I'd be ecstatic if we could get back to at least the top 5.

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    We picked 3rd 2 years go. 5th last year. I'm betting on 7th this year.

    We should be WS champs by 2030 by this rate

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    I could see us getting back into the top 5. And next years draft will be more loaded than this years. I'm fine with one more really high draft.

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