Braves Likely To Hold On To Francoeur, Unless Strong Offer

[CrimsonCowboy]

[thewupk]

Not like we'd get anything useful for him anyways.

[jpx7]

[buck75]

Grit. More grit.

[nsacpi]

Grit. More grit.

The new Jonny Gomes.

[msstate7]

Seems we're getting a lot of who won't be traded reports, but no who will be traded. Personally I wish we'd trade every one of the old guys that someone is willing to give someone for.

[bravesfanMatt]

Seems we're getting a lot of who won't be traded reports, but no who will be traded. Personally I wish we'd trade every one of the old guys that someone is willing to give someone for.

That is the problem. We are so bad no one wants our scraps. We won't trade JT. Viz and ender would be selling low. Everyone else has no value.

[msstate7]

That is the problem. We are so bad no one wants our scraps. We won't trade JT. Viz and ender would be selling low. Everyone else has no value.

Then scrap them and try someone else. We're the worst team in baseball, so they obviously have no value to us either. We know frenchy is pretty much done... I'd rather take a chance on rojas jr and/or Olivera out there to close the season than run frenchy out there.

[Klesko]

Really don't think we want to mess with the chemistry at this point. Number 1 pick or bust!

[striker42]

I have no problem keeping Frenchy. It's doubtful we'd get much more than a live arm or a guy with an outside shot of being a future bench player for him. With our organizational depth that's not very appealing. Francoeur also provides veteran leadership. While this is often overrated, it still has value and that value is enhanced when you have as little veteran leadership as the Braves have. And it's not about winning games now. It's about making sure young players know how to go about their business the right way.

There's really no reason to trade Francoeur for organizational filler. Unless someone offers you something actually valuable, it makes more sense to use him as a bat off the bench.

[nsacpi]

Francoeur also provides veteran leadership. While this is often overrated, it still has value and that value is enhanced when you have as little veteran leadership as the Braves have.

It seems to me we have a surplus of grit and veteran leadership we can trade from. Francoeur. AJ. Markakis. Beckham. Aybar. Flowers. That's a lot of veteran leadership. More than some teams who are heading to the playoffs.

[mfree80]

It seems to me we have a surplus of grit and veteran leadership we can trade from. Francoeur. AJ. Markakis. Beckham. Aybar. Flowers. That's a lot of veteran leadership. More than some teams who are heading to the playoffs.

Well, I suspect Aybar and AJ are destined to be released if not traded, Markakis and Beckham probably have enough value to be traded at some point.

I am fine with Frenchy and Flowers as the veteran Leadership going forward.

[striker42]

Just because you're a veteran doesn't mean you're a veteran leader. I suspect Frenchy has taken on a leadership role in the clubhouse and the Braves aren't keen on losing that and hoping another player steps up to take on that mantle.

If we got a decent offer for Francouer I think he'd be gone in a second. There's just no reason to give him away if he can help with younger players who might get cups of coffee in September.

[TheBravos]

Cause all that vet leadership is super important on a 100 lose team...😑

[clvclv]

Well, I suspect Aybar and AJ are destined to be released if not traded, Markakis and Beckham probably have enough value to be traded at some point.

I am fine with Frenchy and Flowers as the veteran Leadership going forward.

Just a guess, but I think it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine Aybar released after the deadline if Coppy can't get a bag of balls for him. Even if you're not going to call Swanson and Albies up before September, that would give Snitker the chance to showcase d'Arnaud's versatility a little more. If they're going to continue to platoon Beckham and Jace at 2B, at least Chase could get some more ABs to help decide whether he's just a mirage.

I'd also like to see Castro called back up to get ABs if they don't play d'Arnaud at SS. We're probably going to have to turn him loose pretty soon since he's behind d'Arnaud, Jace, Swanson, and Albies, up the middle and Camargo's chasing him down. Maybe someone would take him as a throw-in part of a deal if he could show well with some regular playing time.

[striker42]

Cause all that vet leadership is super important on a 100 lose team...��

It's not about winning games this year. It's about helping teach younger players how to be major leaguers. Brian McCann credits Chipper Jones for much of his success. Chipper taught McCann a lot about how to prepare.

Having Frenchy in the clubhouse might not have huge value to the organization but it has more value than getting a AAAA utility infielder or a minor league reliever that's released in a year or two. Unless you get something that brings more value than keeping him does, you keep him.

[bravesnumberone]

I can breathe easy now.

[TheBravos]

We have gone from getting a overpay for T-ran or Viz, to not getting anything AND refusing to even trade vets (that are takeing playing time from our younger guys that need experience), because they have value in the clubhouse. I feel like I am watching the new TV show MLB hoarders.....

[nsacpi]

Just because you're a veteran doesn't mean you're a veteran leader. I suspect Frenchy has taken on a leadership role in the clubhouse and the Braves aren't keen on losing that and hoping another player steps up to take on that mantle.

Are you saying the others are not leaders. I look at Markakis and AJ and I see a strong leader. Someone who could be a caudillo in a different life.

[nsacpi]

Cause all that vet leadership is super important on a 100 lose team...��

Well the leadership on this year's team could have a spillover effect into 2017 and beyond. Think about that special mentor you had when you were young. That person had a lifelong effect on you.