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Thread: 7/26 MINORS THREAD FINAL: Povse, Cumberland are Monsters

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    Ugh. Ellis with a good start outside of no control. 5 walks in 5 innings and a bit by pitch.

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    Riley has been on a tear lately. If he ends the season on a good note with around 14 homers or so he should be a top 100 prospect. He could really make the offensive side of our minors start to look up.

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    See HO still being a waste of air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Riley has been on a tear lately. If he ends the season on a good note with around 14 homers or so he should be a top 100 prospect. He could really make the offensive side of our minors start to look up.
    I think the key for him will be keeping that contact rate up and lowering his strikeouts. He's done a much better job of that in the second half (only 23 Ks in his last 110 ABs) and his stats have been awesome during those 110 ABs because of it. I'm not sure if he'll pop into any top 100 lists simply because most the prospect sites seem to have issues with his batspeed, but if he keeps making contact like he has in his last 110 ABs the rest of the way who cares what the prospect sites think really.

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    Brett Cumberland is red hot over his last 9 games. He has hit 3 home runs and is slugging over .500 during that time. It will be interesting to see if the Braves keep Lucas Herbert at Low A and jump Cumberland to High A next year.

    I think the big club has some talent that is within a year to year and a half of making it. Ozzie Albies, Dansby Swanson, Dustin Peterson, Rio Ruiz, and Brett Cumberland.

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    Dustin Peterson's 15 game hitting streak is over. He also had a 7 game multi-hit streak working before tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    Dustin Peterson's 15 game hitting streak is over. He also had a 7 game multi-hit streak working before tonight.
    5th OF'er at best.

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    Cumberland is now 3 for 5 with 2 doubles, a home run, and 6 RBIs tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Cumberland is now 3 for 5 with 2 doubles, a home run, and 6 RBIs tonight.
    Wonder how his defense/framing has been so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Wonder how his defense/framing has been so far
    Curious as well on that, since that seems to have been the major knock in his scouting reports. Hopefully he can develop and be average there at least.

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    I'm charged up with how easily Povse has adapted to AAA. After seeing so many struggle to stay, he has become even more dominant on a not-so-great team.

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    FYI, Cumberland now has 22 RBIs in his first 21 games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico43 View Post
    I'm charged up with how easily Povse has adapted to AAA. After seeing so many struggle to stay, he has become even more dominant on a not-so-great team.
    Agree, but he's in AA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IslandBrave View Post
    Agree, but he's in AA.
    And Mississippi is a great team. One thing about Povse is his pitch count. When he is on he is throwing strikes. He pitched 6 tonight but only three 77 pitches. (54 strikes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Cumberland is now 3 for 5 with 2 doubles, a home run, and 6 RBIs tonight.
    Thats in the zone. Like to see that early...sure beats initial struggles.

    He has a little time to make some noise, ala Riley last year.
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    Mel Rojas jr at Gwinnett (30 games)...

    .314/.381/.543

    He's 26. Would love to see him get a shot in LF soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Wonder how his defense/framing has been so far
    Hunter Belinsky from BA mentioned last night that Cumberland was not calling pitches. I'm not sure if this is common among Braves catchers in the low minors or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfree80 View Post
    Interesting how we create a narrative and then stick with it no matter what happens afterward.

    Touki started out with control problems, but seems to have put them behind him, but the control problems narrative hangs on. Just like Mallex and being caught stealing. He struggled at the beginning with a rate around 50%. At the time of his injury, he had, I believe stolen 17 or 18 straight without being caught, but someone the other day declared him to be a poor baserunner because he gets a lot of CS.

    I am not disputing what the numbers say at this point, but pointing out that guys figure it out and get better all the time, especially young guys. We need to sometimes look past the numbers and see what is really happening here, or we might miss opportunities.

    These guys are getting better. Don't relegate them to B level status yet.
    Here's Touki's BB/9 by month:

    April- 5.74
    May- 5.93
    June- 3.41
    July- 5.19

    Touki flashed better control in June but I'd stop short of saying he's put his control problems behind him. A BB/9 of 3.41 in the majors would rate well below average. But he's still young and reports have been that he has a lot of mechanical issues leading to bad command that we're working on fixing so there's still a good chance the command will improve.

    Also, I'm not slotting him as future pen piece and leaving him there. The pen is a fall back option if he's not going to be able to make it as a starter. I just get the feeling from him that he might eventually be best suited as a reliever.

    The comparison I want to make is Tom Gordon. Gordon came up as a starter and started at least 10 games in 9 seasons. But his BB rate was consistently high and he wasn't more than a mediocre starter. But when he was shifted to the pen fulltime he became an excellent reliever. Like Touki, Gordon made his living with a good fastball and devastating curve.

    And I don't think Touki to the pen is relegating him to B status. With his stuff if he improves his command even a little he could be an elite closer. I'd be thrilled if Touki becomes a top notch closer.

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    I saw where Cumberland's SLG in the last 9 games is .689 -- 9 of his 12 hits in the last 9 games are for extra bases.

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    Just sifted through mlbpipeline for our top 30 for the first time in a while. I know it isn't in depth as some of the other services, but they do offer some cool insight about our players and what happens to them and why. For instance, I had no idea Sanchez had conditioning\body issues last year. Or that Sims started squaring up his delivery more at the end of last year after working with one of his pitching coaches that he liked.

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