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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Thought that was Niners?
    Sorry I got my negatrons mixed up.

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    lol wtf?

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    Elliot Johnson is a hoot. He kind of reminds me of Will Ohman with the impersonations.

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    Every team goes through stretches where it looks like they will never hit, then they crush the ball, then don't hit, etc. The key is to be more good than bad overall. And we've done a good job of that for the most part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coredor View Post
    Elliot Johnson is a hoot. He kind of reminds me of Will Ohman with the impersonations.
    I agree, I've also been impressed with him defensively at second base so far. He looks very similar to Janish at second, and he made some plays tonight that Uggla doesn't make. According to fangraphs, EJ had 11 DRS (defensive runs saved) at second base going into Tuesday's game (including 2 DRS so far with us). That's in only 386 innings and suggests that he's been great defensively at second (total opposite of Uggla in other words). He's actually hit okay thus far surprisingly too. He probably has more hits with us already than he had in months with KC. Plus I really like the speed he brings on the bases.

    That said, I would've liked to give him another game or two before going back to Uggla. But I expect Uggla to be back in there tomorrow regardless.
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    What will happen, when Alex will learn to hold his pitch count lower?
    He can become a Ace-pitcher, No. 1 starter for every team!

    I hope in 2-3 years he can go 7 innings + every game!
    (on the other side I hope the teams will always have problems with his idiosyncratic delivery)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coredor View Post
    Elliot Johnson is a hoot. He kind of reminds me of Will Ohman with the impersonations.
    We'll see if his shtick lasts longer than Ohman's did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sentenza View Post
    What will happen, when Alex will learn to hold his pitch count lower?
    He can become a Ace-pitcher, No. 1 starter for every team!

    I hope in 2-3 years he can go 7 innings + every game!
    (on the other side I hope the teams will always have problems with his idiosyncratic delivery)
    I love the kid. Need to see how he is second/third/fourth time around the league but all the signs are there for top of the rotation starter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I love the kid. Need to see how he is second/third/fourth time around the league but all the signs are there for top of the rotation starter.
    Do you know if he's on any type of innings limit this year? Was trying to figure out if he'd be available for us in the playoffs. As it looks right now he's one of our best 3 starters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdawg2309 View Post


    lol wtf?
    Well, I think we know why he was cut by the Royals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    Do you know if he's on any type of innings limit this year? Was trying to figure out if he'd be available for us in the playoffs. As it looks right now he's one of our best 3 starters.
    He threw 155 last year so I think he should be good for the rest of the year. They might skip a start of his in September just to make sure he is rested.
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    The Chris Sale comparisons look pretty good now. Like most young players he had a rough beginning in his first few starts but he turned it around rather quickly. It took Minor a while to put it together and get his confidence going but Wood has not looked back since. It's crazy to think Wood was drafted just last June and pitched A ball all of last year and then only pitched 50+ innings in AA with a very brief stint in AAA. It is extremely early in his career but it's hard not to get excited about what this guy is doing. It's not like he's doing this with smoke and mirrors.

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    He doesn't throw as hard as Sale and doesn't have a wipeout slider. Haven't seen too much of Sale but I think Wood as the better changeup which might make him less susceptible to an injury.
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    Wood absolutely has the ability to be a top of the rotation starter. He's got plus stuff and keeps the ball on the ground. All he needs to do is become a little more efficient and pitch deeper into games. As I've said since we drafted him, his mechanics are not a problem. Just because they are a little funky, it doesn't mean he doesn't have solid mechanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    He doesn't throw as hard as Sale and doesn't have a wipeout slider. Haven't seen too much of Sale but I think Wood as the better changeup which might make him less susceptible to an injury.
    Wood's mechanics not his repertoire is what puts him at risk. It's hard to tell if he's sound now, and it's even harder to tell if he can keep repeating them to stay sound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Wood's mechanics not his repertoire is what puts him at risk. It's hard to tell if he's sound now, and it's even harder to tell if he can keep repeating them to stay sound.
    He seems to repeat his delivery just fine to me but I don't have the luxury of side by sides in slow motion. I don't see him off balance that often.
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    There's a pretty good discussion going on now over at Primer about a recent Terrance Moore article (ironic that a Terrance Moore article actually ignited a lively intellectual discussion but his troll-like abilities have the effect of inducing vitriol amongst more reasonable individuals) about this very topic.

    Pitcher mechanics and long-term health are still very much a gray (if not black) box. There are some physicians and biomechanical experts who believe in myths like the Verducci effect, overall pitch limits, etc. There are others who think it's all bogus and it's largely a lottery ticket. I fall into the latter camp. I'm not saying pitchers should just throw caution to the wind and organizations should implement programs so every single pitcher has to throw Walter Johnson's innings to make it up to the bigs, but there isn't always a correlation regarding # of pitches, workload, velocity, etc. There MAY be a correlation between certain types of pitches (sliders tend to be the biggest target) and elbow/shoulder injuries and I do believe there may be some validity there.. but individual genetics and luck are probably the biggest drivers behind injuries.

    I tend to emphasize repeatable mechanics over irregular mechanics -- the latter has a far worse of a damaging effect on a labrum or tendon over time.

    So, in short, I'm not overly concerned about Wood's delivery, so long as he's continuing to repeat his same motion time and time again. It's funny how pitchers with funky, jerky deliveries like Wood can pitch for long periods without any sort of incident while pitchers like Harvey who are extolled as having excellent mechanics can end up with injuries (and sometimes, unfortunately, never return to their prior form ala Mark Prior). Much like life, elbows and labrums can be fickle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdawg2309 View Post


    lol wtf?
    This. Right here. Makes picking him up completely worth it. Not to mention his offense in this game was the reason we won. (again, from an offensive standpoint)

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