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    For me, it is between Simmons, Kimbrel and Freddie... and that is still leaving out 2-3 worthy candidates. I honestly cannot choose just one guy, right now.

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    Freddie Freeman

    April .319/.407/.426
    May .316/.366/.491
    June .291/.392/.466
    July .315/.396/.522
    August .319/.388/.451

    The guy has been the very definition of consistent. When the offense was struggling he was still hitting. Even Chris Johnson who has been great had down months in May and so far in August.

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    really can't see how a closer can be an MVP. If you lose the first 8 innings he's of no value whatsoever. And you have to win the first 8 innings without him. That being said, Kimbrel is the best there is, I just don't think he "wins" games, and your 2nd best closer would only "lose" a few more games than CK.

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    If you lose the first eight innings, nobody is really of value because wins is what counts ultimately. Kimbrel has preserved many wins for us. I'd say Freddie and Kimbrel are Co-MVPs if anything. Hell, even our whole damn bullpen could be considered MVP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan Black View Post
    Freddie Freeman

    April .319/.407/.426
    May .316/.366/.491
    June .291/.392/.466
    July .315/.396/.522
    August .319/.388/.451

    The guy has been the very definition of consistent. When the offense was struggling he was still hitting. Even Chris Johnson who has been great had down months in May and so far in August.
    On a team that is maddeningly inconsistent, the value of his consistency is more valuable than any stat can show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdawg2309 View Post
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    A good argument could be made that Avilan has been more valuable that Kimbrel.

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    For me it is Simba. The metrics say so. And mine eyes have seen the glory of his magical swift glove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan Black View Post
    A good argument could be made that Avilan has been more valuable that Kimbrel.
    Good? Not really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopdrew View Post
    Freeman or Kimbrel. You could incude Justin in the discussion, too...
    September tells the tale.

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    Most likely to receive a postseason award/honor? Fredi Gonzalez.

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    Freddie's consistent performance probably deserves it, if only for being a constant balm for our collective neuroses.

    Jason might've been my choice, pre-beaning.

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    Freeman, Simmons and Kimbrel are 1a, 1b and 1c.

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    Has top be Freeman, and assuming he doesn't completely fall off, Freeman will finish in the top 5 in NL MVP voting most likely. Will probably have a pretty decent shot at winning it if he Can get to 20+ homers 100 RBI's (stats that the writers actually care about). But Cutch probably wins it this yr. And he deseves it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Has top be Freeman, and assuming he doesn't completely fall off, Freeman will finish in the top 5 in NL MVP voting most likely. Will probably have a pretty decent shot at winning it if he Can get to 20+ homers 100 RBI's (stats that the writers actually care about). But Cutch probably wins it this yr. And he deseves it
    Freeman shouldn't be top 5 in MVP voting. Love him but he's only really got an attractive BA. If you presume the writers go the triple crown route then it will be Goldschmidt, who leads the NL in RBIs and is second in homers. Of course those could change to end the season. Though it totally shoudl be Cutch considering he's hitting as well as guys like Votto and Goldschmidt, but doing it with good CF defense and great baserunning.

    BTW guess which one is Heyward, which one is Freeman, and which one is Cutch

    10.6%BB 16.5%K .170 iso 22.1 LD%
    10.9%BB 14.7%K .187 iso 24.9 LD%
    10.1%BB 19.0%K ,166 iso 27.2 LD%

    All of them are pretty danged close huh? Shame one was semi-ruined by a horribly unlucky BABIP.
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    He's top 10 in BA and top 5 in RBI though, so he is a leader in 2 of the triple crown categories. And sports writers love big RBI guys, as stupid of a stat as it is. I think top 5 (assuming no drastic changes in performance) will be Cutch (winner), Goldschimdt, Molina, Votto, and Freeman.
    Last edited by Carp; 08-29-2013 at 01:41 AM.

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    Perhaps but I think one of the guys on bad teams sneaks in with Wright or Gomez over Freddie and maybe Votto.
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    Gonna change my answer and go outside the box.

    BJ Upton.

    If he hadn't been so crappy the entire year, Heyward would not have played CF and hit leadoff, and the rest of the team wouldn't have needed to step up their games to cover for BJ's terrible offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    Gonna change my answer and go outside the box.

    BJ Upton.

    If he hadn't been so crappy the entire year, Heyward would not have played CF and hit leadoff, and the rest of the team wouldn't have needed to step up their games to cover for BJ's terrible offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    Good? Not really.
    I think so...simply because of the loss of Venters and O'Flaherty. Obviously Kimbrel's numbers are better than Avilan. Avilan has played a major role in the bullpen. Now with Downs there too he's not as important, but with the way Carpenter and Walden have pitched it's possible either of them could have filled the closers role (I know Walden has bit it the couple of times they used him to give Kimbrel a break, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have been able to do it over the course of the year).

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