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    I don't want to turn this into a league MVP discussion, but Puig is going to be right there when all is said and done. Whether he deserves it or not is up for debate.

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    I agree it is Freeman for all the reasons already stated. Also he has hit .439 with risp which is a big deal for a team that can struggle to score runs consistently.

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    Don't look now Freeman doubters, but his OPS is now .892.

    not sure if it's possible, but his OBP is also .392...he could pontentially end .300/.400/.500 if he stays hot for the last few games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan Black View Post
    Don't look now Freeman doubters, but his OPS is now .892.

    not sure if it's possible, but his OBP is also .392...he could pontentially end .300/.400/.500 if he stays hot for the last few games.
    Chipper-like. And better than Chipper's age 23 season.

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    I still say Kimbrell. Not taking anything from Freeman - but lots of players have those years.
    What Kimbrell brings to this team is other worldly.

    My guess is playoff teams are already trying to figure out how to make sure they have successful early innings to avoid having to deal with that.
    Like any hitter, Freeman can be pitched to. Kimbrell is something no other team can bring to a game.

    Hell, let them share it. ****, I dont think either cares who gets the credit. That is why this team is so special

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan Black View Post
    Don't look now Freeman doubters, but his OPS is now .892.

    not sure if it's possible, but his OBP is also .392...he could pontentially end .300/.400/.500 if he stays hot for the last few games.
    It's also interesting that he sits the day after the division is clinched. Makes me think he told Fredi not to rest him until the division was locked up.

    If his power takes another step forward next year we are looking at a bonafide MVP candidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    It's also interesting that he sits the day after the division is clinched. Makes me think he told Fredi not to rest him until the division was locked up.

    If his power takes another step forward next year we are looking at a bonafide MVP candidate.
    Just like some of us have been saying for two years. He is by far our best hitter and will ontinue to get better. Not sure why its crazy to think he will be a top 5-10 firstbaseman for the next 10 years.
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    This year, it's probably Simmons, followed closely by Freddie.

    Had Jason been healthier, he would have walked away with it.

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    61-30 in games Jason started. Pretty damned awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holden View Post
    This year, it's probably Simmons, followed closely by Freddie.
    That's pretty much my take too, Simmons is our defensive MVP and Freeman is our offensive MVP. While overall I'd say both of them at this point are co-MVP's for Braves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Chipper-like. And better than Chipper's age 23 season.
    Agreed. How remarkable is it that Chipper went .300/.400/.500 for his career?

    Six guys in history have done that with 450 HR, 1500 runs and RBI - Ruth, Gehrig, Williams, Foxx, Musial and CJones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GovClintonTyree View Post
    Agreed. How remarkable is it that Chipper went .300/.400/.500 for his career?

    Six guys in history have done that with 450 HR, 1500 runs and RBI - Ruth, Gehrig, Williams, Foxx, Musial and CJones.
    Just incredible....Thanks for that.
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    Freddie is so close

    .317/.396/.503

    Also like these trends

    Walks
    2011 - 53
    2012 - 64
    2013 - 66

    Strikeouts
    2011 - 142
    2012 - 129
    2013 - 117

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan Black View Post
    Freddie is so close

    .317/.396/.503

    Also like these trends

    Walks
    2011 - 53
    2012 - 64
    2013 - 66

    Strikeouts
    2011 - 142
    2012 - 129
    2013 - 117
    His LD% has gone up each year as well. He is just a special special hitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    His LD% has gone up each year as well. He is just a special special hitter.
    As has his HR/FB lots of good trends for him. Need to K less still to be a legit .300 threat year in and year out like Chipper was, but if he's only a .290 hitter every year how can I really complain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    As has his HR/FB lots of good trends for him. Need to K less still to be a legit .300 threat year in and year out like Chipper was, but if he's only a .290 hitter every year how can I really complain?
    Just the fact that we are even mentioning Freeman in the same sentence as Chipper is amazing. There is probalby a less than 5% chance he is as good as Chipper but its definiteliy a non-zero chance which is exciting.
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    Trending upwards in the second half. .330/.409/.551 with a 37 home run pace over a full season. The lowest OPS he has in any month this season is .833 in April and .834 in August. The lowest batting average for a month .291. I think he is on the verge of a big breakout next year. I am thinking something like .320+/.400+/.525+. We need to sign this guy to as long a term of extension as we can before he gets a whiff of the money free agency could bring him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Trending upwards in the second half. .330/.409/.551 with a 37 home run pace over a full season. The lowest OPS he has in any month this season is .833 in April and .834 in August. The lowest batting average for a month .291. I think he is on the verge of a big breakout next year. I am thinking something like .320+/.400+/.525+. We need to sign this guy to as long a term of extension as we can before he gets a whiff of the money free agency could bring him.
    Concerns me he and Heyward turned down extensions reportedly.

    I would give both 10 year deals right now and wouldn't hesitate.

    But do they accept?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Concerns me he and Heyward turned down extensions reportedly.

    I would give both 10 year deals right now and wouldn't hesitate.

    But do they accept?
    They should. People keep mentioning them rejecting extensions but we don't know what they offered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    They should. People keep mentioning them rejecting extensions but we don't know what they offered.
    Right, exactly. Maybe they thought their values would go up. Nothing wrong with that.
    If we want to keep them, we will. And we should. Great cornerstones.

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