This is the envelope Warren was holding
Forever Fredi
there are 2 cards for each category
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
jpx7 (02-27-2017)
Btw I never said Beatty announced anything or read anything. It was Faye that read it. I don't think she was expecting it to be the wrong card.
There are people that now believe white people tried to sabotage Moonlight from winning.
Forever Fredi
I didn't care who won. I saw all of them except Lion. Each movie had its own flavor. I get that Moonlight was the "serious" choice and I thought it was well done. My favorite movies of those nominated were Hidden Figures and Manchester by the Sea. I was glad to see Lonergren win the Original Screenplay. There's a lot of backlash against La La Land and I get that. The story wasn't that great and certainly didn't have the emotional or intellectual heft of many of the nominees, but I was glad to see Chazelle win Best Director because he constructed a very impressive piece of work.
jpx7 (02-27-2017), The Chosen One (02-27-2017)
50PoundHead (02-27-2017), The Chosen One (02-27-2017)
The critical backlash against La La Land really humored me, but it may have killed its chances for Best Picture. Again, I thought it was a weak story that was made into a pretty good movie. Moonlight was a great story that was put together fairly well, but its construction wasn't as complicated as what Chazelle did. Stories don't tell themselves and Barry Jenkins did a good job as Director, but the power of the story and the deft touch of the screenplay made Moonlight almost impossible to screw up.
The Academy waxes and wanes and there's often some measure of payback for an overlooked performance. Rod Steiger doesn't win for a tour de force performance in The Pawnbroker and then wins two years later for playing a caricature of a redneck Southern sheriff in In the Heat of the Night. Same could probably said for Di Caprio winning for The Revenant when some his earlier performances were stronger.
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jpx7 (02-27-2017)
I liked it. I predicted it would win the technical awards and it was technically near perfect. Good story. Always love true stories of heroism. Fair or not, I don't think Mel Gibson has been fully redeemed yet in the eyes of the industry, which really stinks. He's shown that he's a very good director. I thought Andrew Garfield had two stellar performances this year in Hacksaw Ridge and Silence. War movies don't do that well anymore, which is also unfair. In a different year, it may have won.
I can't wait for Dunkirk.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
50PoundHead (02-27-2017), Hawk (02-27-2017)
jpx7 (02-27-2017), The Chosen One (02-27-2017)
Very true—and I've cited the Di Caprio example myself multiple times.
Pawnbroker is amazing. Lumet's 1960s output is perennially underrated relative to his 1970s work (and he's generally a bit under-appreciated in the pantheon, I think, awkwardly-sandwiched as his rise was between the waning of Golden Age Hollywood and the late-60s suppuration of the American Nouvelle Vague).
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
i didn't like the casting of Andrew Garfield in Hacksaw and i didn't see all the best pictures but i liked the film but i didn't think it was anywhere close to best picture for the year
and yeah, Mel has shown he can direct and is why he has won an oscar for it.
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
Hawk (02-27-2017), jpx7 (02-27-2017), The Chosen One (02-27-2017)