The Trump Presidency

[sturg33]

Virtue signaling is a common theme

[mqt]

Trump now raising taxes on Mexican imports. The socialist should be thrilled

Delightful that our President is now going to raise prices on goods for everyone so that we can stick it to the Mexican government in no way.

[sturg33]

Delightful that our President is now going to raise prices on goods for everyone so that we can stick it to the Mexican government in no way.

He doesn't understand tarrifs.

But, tariffs are something socialist vocally support so not sure why the left isn't celebrating

[sturg33]

[mqt]

Virtue signaling is a common theme

Genuine question: who the **** cares? If I believe in the cause they’re claiming to care about, and that action helps the cause I believe in, why concern myself with whether their intentions are pure? I’m not trying to make Disney the arbiter of American values. I just have a set of beliefs, and in this case Disney claims to be supporting those beliefs. As long as people don’t lose sight of the fact that Disney is a giant corporation and not some heroic group of crusaders fighting abortion restrictions, why not take the news favorably if that’s the side you’re on?

[mqt]

He doesn't understand tarrifs.

But, tariffs are something socialist vocally support so not sure why the left isn't celebrating

This is actually a fair question. I’ve long felt like I don’t align with my cohorts on specific economic policies like trade and minimum wage, as I don’t think some of the policies proposed actually extend any additional benefits to those they are trying to help. However, for those who think differently, opposition to tariffs has confused me.

[goldfly]

tariffs are something socialist vocally support so not sure why the left isn't celebrating

cause maybe the left isn't the outright socialist/communist loving and capitalist hating group you think they are? and maybe want a more western version of democratic socialism seen in europe

but you know

that would mean your whole narrative would be false so, doubt you get to that conclusion

[sturg33]

cause maybe the left isn't the outright socialist/communist loving and capitalist hating group you think they are? and maybe want a more western version of democratic socialism seen in europe

but you know

that would mean your whole narrative would be false so, doubt you get to that conclusion

The tariffs in 2018 represented one of the largest tax increases in our nation's history.

Arent you always calling for higher taxes?

[acesfull86]

cause maybe the left isn't the outright socialist/communist loving and capitalist hating group you think they are? and maybe want a more western version of democratic socialism seen in europe

but you know

that would mean your whole narrative would be false so, doubt you get to that conclusion

Or people have a fear of giving the appearance they agree with Trump on anything? Bernie Sanders and Trump are not far apart on trade at all

[goldfly]

equating wanting taxes raised on rich folks to tariffs that will be paid by common folk is the type of dishonesty i expect from "freedom" and "non fake" news boy

Or people have a fear of giving the appearance they agree with Trump on anything? Bernie Sanders and Trump are not far apart on trade at all

ok, but one would have to agree with everything bernie says for this to be true

and i have news for ya on that front

[sturg33]

equating wanting taxes raised on rich folks to tariffs that will be paid by common folk is the type of dishonesty i expect from "freedom" and "non fake" news boy




ok, but one would have to agree with everything bernie says for this to be true

and i have news for ya on that front

Like all the the countries you want us to copy with their democratic socialism, the middle class tax rates are double or even triple what we have here.

[goldfly]

again, not the same game as tariffs

but i thought you would know that

but it doesn't work well to equate the taxes as different

but i digress

[acesfull86]

equating wanting taxes raised on rich folks to tariffs that will be paid by common folk is the type of dishonesty i expect from "freedom" and "non fake" news boy




ok, but one would have to agree with everything bernie says for this to be true

and i have news for ya on that front

I don’t see any of his supporters tripping over themselves to argue against the economic opinions he shares with Trump...

[sturg33]

again, not the same game as tariffs

but i thought you would know that

but it doesn't work well to equate the taxes as different

but i digress

Not the same game? Higher costs for Americans where the proceeds go to the Federal Government.

Isn't that what yall want? Less money for Americans to let the Government do more?

[thethe]

Tariffs, like taxes, impact behavior. There will be less imports from mexico over time which will be a detriment to Mexico. There are other supply chains now that are either at the same price or cheaper after a tariff. That isnt the case for all goods but it will be for some.

[sturg33]

Tariffs, like taxes, impact behavior. There will be less imports from mexico over time which will be a detriment to Mexico. There are other supply chains now that are either at the same price or cheaper after a tariff. That isnt the case for all goods but it will be for some.

So we're going to hurt their economy, which will cause less poor people to try to cross the boarder?

All while raising taxes on Americans and American businesses

Bold strategy

[thethe]

So we're going to hurt their economy, which will cause less poor people to try to cross the boarder?

All while raising taxes on Americans and American businesses

Bold strategy

Its a consumption tax so in certain instances there is no tax. And when mexico also suffers, as china is now, then they will be a partner in stopping the mass migration coming into america which actually helps americans.

[sturg33]

Its a consumption tax so in certain instances there is no tax. And when mexico also suffers, as china is now, then they will be a partner in stopping the mass migration coming into america which actually helps americans.

But making Mexicans poorer will only increase the number of migrants

[thethe]

But making Mexicans poorer will only increase the number of migrants

When the mexican elites are making less money there will be more pressure on the government to make decisions to protect their interests.

In addition, its not mexican citizens that are pressing the border limits currently. These tariffs are to get Mexico to police their southern border. A very reasonable request to protect america.

[sturg33]

When the mexican elites are making less money there will be more pressure on the government to make decisions to protect their interests.

In addition, its not mexican citizens that are pressing the border limits currently. These tariffs are to get Mexico to police their southern border. A very reasonable request to protect america.

That's just crazy. It's a tax on Americans.

Not to mention, companies who moved their supply chain from China to Mexico in response to the China tariffs have got to be fed up.

I'm against all the tariffs, but at least with China there's some IP mission behind it... this is just stupid from a President who clearly doesn't understand how tariffs work