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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Weird I never heard about this when Obama did it in 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Weird I never heard you complaining about Obama's massive deficits, Obama's massive debt increases, and Obama's massive tax increases.

    So, so weird

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Weird I never heard you complaining about Obama's massive deficits, Obama's massive debt increases, and Obama's massive tax increases.

    So, so weird
    It's standard macroeconomics that fiscal policy should be loosened during times of economic slack (high unemployment) and tightened during times when the economy is operating near full capacity (low unemployment).
    “It's a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning.” Senator Bob Corker

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    It's standard macroeconomics that fiscal policy should be loosened during times of economic slack (high unemployment) and tightened during times when the economy is operating near full capacity (low unemployment).
    Oh trust me I'm against all the insane spending we have going on today.

    It's funny when the socialists are complaining about it though lol

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    i love a good FB reply at me instead of the content that should get him fired up to be on the side of the tweet

    but on brand i guess when it comes to me living rent free in that dome.
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    If anyone is living rent free, its DJT in goldys head. Its embarrassing how much he affects your well being

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    If anyone is living rent free, its DJT in goldys head. Its embarrassing how much he affects your well being
    DJT is just an embarrassment to our country.

    Nothing more needs to be said.
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    yep, you nailed it with that one. right on the head.

    weird to speak to me and not at me in the same post though. lol
    "If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin. It is a very great mistake to imagine that the object of loyalty is the authority and interest of one individual man, however dignified by the applause or enriched by the success of popular actions.” Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    DJT is just an embarrassment to our country.

    Nothing more needs to be said.
    deranged donny is obviously rent free in your dome and affecting your well being sir
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    No outrage at Obama for locking up the kids?

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    since you don't think i was ever critical of Obama and you think i think he was a god

    i don't see how what i say matters on Obamas policy that is getting a false equivalency to what is happening now. much less i have yet to find any evidence of President Obama using old Japanese interment camp spots to rip children away from families etc
    "If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin. It is a very great mistake to imagine that the object of loyalty is the authority and interest of one individual man, however dignified by the applause or enriched by the success of popular actions.” Samuel Adams

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    It's in the article you linked to lol

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    i'll be honest, i stopped reading before getting to that spot lol

    i don't like any president following in the steps of japanese interment camps ftr

    edit: still overall a false equivalency to what both administrations are doing at the border in regards to children and breaking families apart etc
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    "If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin. It is a very great mistake to imagine that the object of loyalty is the authority and interest of one individual man, however dignified by the applause or enriched by the success of popular actions.” Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    No outrage at Obama for locking up the kids?
    I wasn't an Obama supporter, but this sort of argument is what's wrong in American politics. Shoveling blame somewhere else does nothing to fix the problem.

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    I believe Obama lives rent free in sturg's head still to this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I wasn't an Obama supporter, but this sort of argument is what's wrong in American politics. Shoveling blame somewhere else does nothing to fix the problem.
    I agree but I roll my eyes at all the fake outrage today when nobody cared 4 years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    I believe Obama lives rent free in sturg's head still to this day.
    Gotta support the free housing initiative

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I wasn't an Obama supporter, but this sort of argument is what's wrong in American politics. Shoveling blame somewhere else does nothing to fix the problem.
    It actually speaks to the motives of the outraged party and proves they dont actually care about the injustice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    No outrage at Obama for locking up the kids?
    I think that when you just go the “but Obama” route, you tend to elide a lot of salient facts. There was a large influx of unaccompanied minors in the Obama administration. There was not a policy of separating migrant families and sending them to different detention facilities. Whatever you think of Obama immigration policy—and it’s among the most criticized aspects of his tenure on the left—that’s a material difference that you can’t hand-wave away with whataboutism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I think that when you just go the “but Obama” route, you tend to elide a lot of salient facts. There was a large influx of unaccompanied minors in the Obama administration. There was not a policy of separating migrant families and sending them to different detention facilities. Whatever you think of Obama immigration policy—and it’s among the most criticized aspects of his tenure on the left—that’s a material difference that you can’t hand-wave away with whataboutism.
    Also, Obama’s immigration policy may not be perfect.

    But at least he showed some compassion by enacting DACA and increasing the amount of Syrian refugees the US committed to bringing over even though politically it probably wasn’t very popular.

    Far cry from what 45 has done wasting national emergencies and sending troops to the border for no reason other than political theater.
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