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    The Rude Pundit‏ @rudepundit 30m30 minutes ago

    The Rude Pundit Retweeted Donald J. Trump

    Democrats have lost elections before. When Reagan destroyed Mondale, no one thought it was because the USSR helped smear the Democrat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Everyone I know hopes Trump / his administration is innocent and this was all just a manufactured scandal rather than , I don't think it hyperbolic, a coup

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    Our dear friend Peskov was on GMA this AM: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/kreml...ry?id=46486662

    Russian President Vladimir Putin's right-hand man said in an interview today on ABC's "Good Morning America" that current relations between Russia and the United States are "maybe even worse" than the Cold War.

    Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov also told ABC News chief anchor George Stephanopoulos that the allegations of Russia's interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election are "fake news" and "slander."

    "It has no evidence at all," he said of the claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Curious why you are so anti-FC... Agree with them or not, I think it's healthy to have principled small government conservatives in the house - at the very least just to keep people honest.
    I don't think that's unreasonable, but there's a hell of an assumption tucked in there at the end.

    Because of them, you were saved a horrid health care bill. At least in the case of Amash - he is NOT a partisan voter... just a constitutional voter (at least his interpretation of it)... what's wrong with that?
    Sure, because of them, and others.

    As for why I'm anti, it's best summed up briefly by saying that they have not enough influence (and a questionable will) to govern, but enough to scuttle broadly-agreed upon policy. Seems like you're familiar enough with my political leanings that I don't need to draw a map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Our dear friend Peskov was on GMA this AM: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/kreml...ry?id=46486662

    Russian President Vladimir Putin's right-hand man said in an interview today on ABC's "Good Morning America" that current relations between Russia and the United States are "maybe even worse" than the Cold War.

    Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov also told ABC News chief anchor George Stephanopoulos that the allegations of Russia's interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election are "fake news" and "slander."

    "It has no evidence at all," he said of the claims.
    Also Russia will win 2018 World Cup.

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    in soviet america, swamp drain you.
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    like a well oiled machine for sure

    what a conman
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    A year of so ago the word "corruption" was bandied about due to Russian fed WikiLeaks revelations that the (D) candidate received a debate question in advance.
    I have watched debates since their revival in 1976 (where President Ford proclaimed Poland was not a USSR sattalite) right up until the last one where the (R) candidate called the (D) candidate a "nasty woman"
    Cutting to the chase, not many questions are surprises. These aren't generally revealing in apolicy sense but more a snapshot into the candidates " temperament"

    Back to corruption where one party benefit$ from office.
    Now the winner enacts real live in real time authentic qui pro quo "corruption" as the state of the union

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/02/u...=top-news&_r=0

    https://www.propublica.org/article/t...ent=1491221180

    Going back a year I think the phrase I used was
    "you wouldn't know corruption if it ran off with your wife"

    Still holds
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    Man, If it comes out that Obama had anything to do with this surveillance on the Trump campaign its going to get ugly.
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    Its been ugly for a long time.
    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

    It’s over."


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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    The Rude Pundit‏ @rudepundit 30m30 minutes ago

    The Rude Pundit Retweeted Donald J. Trump

    Democrats have lost elections before. When Reagan destroyed Mondale, no one thought it was because the USSR helped smear the Democrat.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octobe...spiracy_theory
    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

    It’s over."


    Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.

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    You could say the same for 1968 where Nixon Campaign promised the North Vietnamese a better deal.

    Yet neither was Russia/USSR.
    Which was the bloggers point

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Man, If it comes out that Obama had anything to do with this surveillance on the Trump campaign its going to get ugly.
    If Obama and/or the intel community wasn't surveilling the Trup team it would have been a dereliction of duty.

    Why? Because they were clearly very connected to Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    If Obama and/or the intel community wasn't surveilling the Trup team it would have been a dereliction of duty.

    Why? Because they were clearly very connected to Russia.
    I guess I missed the part where it was concluded that the Trump campaign was connected to Russia. But go on.

    Surveillance on the opposing partys candidate by the sitting president would be one of the worst abuses of power in the history of this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I guess I missed the part where it was concluded that the Trump campaign was connected to Russia. But go on.

    Surveillance on the opposing partys candidate by the sitting president would be one of the worst abuses of power in the history of this country.
    My guess is that they were conducting surveillance on Manafort probably prior to him becoming Trump's campaign manager and that stumbled into the Trump camp. I frankly don't think there's much on either side here. Russia interfered in, but didn't swing, the election. The FBI followed Manafort (which may have led them in other directions beyond Manafort), but I'm not seeing the conspiracies either side seems to be seeing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    My guess is that they were conducting surveillance on Manafort probably prior to him becoming Trump's campaign manager and that stumbled into the Trump camp. I frankly don't think there's much on either side her. Russia interfered in, but didn't swing, the election. The FBI followed Manafort (which may have led them in other directions beyond Manafort), but I'm not seeing the conspiracies either side seems to be seeing.
    For this countries sake I hope this is the case.

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    Why are we ok with them surveiling the entire country but not with Trump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post

    Why? Because they were clearly very connected to Russia.
    Really? Where's the evidence?

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    People asking for evidence and also back agent orange

    That's funny

    The sitting president has access to all times of classified intelligence and he still gets his news from fox and friends. What a ****ing joke
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    People asking for evidence and also back agent orange

    That's funny

    The sitting president has access to all times of classified intelligence and he still gets his news from fox and friends. What a ****ing joke
    Since you feel a need to run your smart ass mouth why don't you provide some evidence. What's that? You can't? Just what I thought.

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