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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Well that's because trumps case has been investigated for months and still no evidence has surfaced. The Susan rice investigation is a relatively new case so why would you expect your fact pattern to be any differebt?
    There's an investigation now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    There's an investigation now?
    Not a government sanctioned one but I suspect that will change soon.

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    " Not a government sanctioned one "

    Is that the same as OJ perusing Nicole and Ron's killer ?
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Not a government sanctioned one but I suspect that will change soon.
    Oh, ok. I'll wait.

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    WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Wednesday that this week’s devastating chemical weapons attack in Syria had changed his view of the brutal civil war in that country, though he declined to say how the United States would respond.

    Mr. Trump said the images of death inside Syria in the aftermath of the chemical attacks “crosses many lines, beyond a red line, many many lines.” And he said that the death of “innocent children, innocent babies, little babies” has made him reassess the situation and Syria’s president, Bashar al-Assad.

    It’s very, very possible, and I will tell you it has already happened, that my attitude toward Syria and Assad, has changed very much,” Mr. Trump said as he stood next to King Abdullah of Jordan in the Rose Garden for a news conference with reporters.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/w...=top-news&_r=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Wednesday that this week’s devastating chemical weapons attack in Syria had changed his view of the brutal civil war in that country, though he declined to say how the United States would respond.

    Mr. Trump said the images of death inside Syria in the aftermath of the chemical attacks “crosses many lines, beyond a red line, many many lines.” And he said that the death of “innocent children, innocent babies, little babies” has made him reassess the situation and Syria’s president, Bashar al-Assad.

    It’s very, very possible, and I will tell you it has already happened, that my attitude toward Syria and Assad, has changed very much,” Mr. Trump said as he stood next to King Abdullah of Jordan in the Rose Garden for a news conference with reporters.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/w...=top-news&_r=0
    I really can't imagine what's coming next.

    What do you make of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Well, here's a positive development. A good call by Trump, and hopefully a sign that McMaster isn't going to be marginalized.
    Damn Julio. Be careful what you wish for.

    http://www.chron.com/news/nation-wor...l-11052682.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Damn Julio. Be careful what you wish for.

    http://www.chron.com/news/nation-wor...l-11052682.php
    I guess that might qualify as an "oops."

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    Rick Perry? WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I really can't imagine what's coming next.

    What do you make of that?
    I honestly am not sure if he has the capital to do more than put a few extra boots on the ground, although I've learned to expect the unexpected when it comes to all things Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    “crosses many lines, beyond a red line, many many lines”
    “innocent children, innocent babies, little babies”
    “It’s very, very possible""very much”
    The speech patterns are so fascinating.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    I don't want to depend too much on conventional wisdom, but there has been a perception that Trump is disproportionately influenced by the moment, by tv "reality," by the last expert that he spoke to. My reading of this is that he seems a little blindsided by Assad's actions here, probably because he has been assured by the Bannon axis that if we play ball with the Russians, they'll reciprocate.

    This assurance may have just been undercut.

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    AFP news agency
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    #BREAKING US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson warns Russia time to re-think support of Syria's Assad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    AFP news agency
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    #BREAKING US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson warns Russia time to re-think support of Syria's Assad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    AFP news agency
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    #BREAKING US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson warns Russia time to re-think support of Syria's Assad
    Should be a brief, if not brusque, reply:

    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Not a government sanctioned one but I suspect that will change soon.
    One more point that I think is germane here.

    In the early days of the Obama administration, a lot of folks, myself included, were disappointed that the O admin made it clear there would be no investigation of Bush-era policy on torture, detention, and rendition. Speaking for myself, it wasn't that I wanted to see people strung up, but more that I wanted some kind of "truth and reconciliation" situation... but plenty of people did want to see folks in the dock for it, and with some good reason.

    O admin made it clear that they believed that it was inappropriate to investigate one's predecessor in that way.

    Seems pretty honorable and quaint in retrospect, in light of what you're suggesting.

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    Trump has already extended Obama a courtesy by not locking up HRC.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Trump has already extended Obama a courtesy by not locking up HRC.


    Wait til Wikileaks drops the missing emails.

    I'm sure we'll get a heads-up from someone.

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    Roger Stone in his Clearwater back yard wearing a Panama Jack hat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    One more point that I think is germane here.

    In the early days of the Obama administration, a lot of folks, myself included, were disappointed that the O admin made it clear there would be no investigation of Bush-era policy on torture, detention, and rendition. Speaking for myself, it wasn't that I wanted to see people strung up, but more that I wanted some kind of "truth and reconciliation" situation... but plenty of people did want to see folks in the dock for it, and with some good reason.

    O admin made it clear that they believed that it was inappropriate to investigate one's predecessor in that way.

    Seems pretty honorable and quaint in retrospect, in light of what you're suggesting.
    I'm sure Obama would have been just as generous if the bush administration was responsible for a spying operation that was designed to work against Obama election bid.

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