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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    There's a lot of fluff on top of this tax plan to appeal to middle-income tax payers (doubling the standard deduction, lowering the income tax rate, etc.). It's hard not to get the suspicion that this was done to mask the provision to allow pass-through firms/partnerships (which include real estate entities similar to Trump's) to be taxed at the corporate tax rate of 15%, instead of at the individual tax rate. I can see how this loophole will be exploited by lawyers/doctors/consultants/etc. to reclassify their earnings so that they can pay the corp. tax rate instead of the individual tax rate.

    This is going to be very decisive and the calls for Trump to release his tax returns are only going to get louder and louder.
    Always. Got to sell it to the middle class, like W did. It's a con.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    There's a lot of fluff on top of this tax plan to appeal to middle-income tax payers (doubling the standard deduction, lowering the income tax rate, etc.). It's hard not to get the suspicion that this was done to mask the provision to allow pass-through firms/partnerships (which include real estate entities similar to Trump's) to be taxed at the corporate tax rate of 15%, instead of at the individual tax rate. I can see how this loophole will be exploited by lawyers/doctors/consultants/etc. to reclassify their earnings so that they can pay the corp. tax rate instead of the individual tax rate.

    This is going to be very decisive and the calls for Trump to release his tax returns are only going to get louder and louder.
    No no no those people will just pay more taxes than they have to because that's how society gets all these roads and public services.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Always. Got to sell it to the middle class, like W did. It's a con.
    to be fair... it's not that hard to sell "we're going to confiscate less of your money

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    As far as I am concerned as long as we have money to bomb/invade the middle East, wage war on drugs, and mass incarcerate people the government has too much money. It's like giving money to a crackhead at this point.
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    Obama gets 400K to speak to Wall Street. Hmm.....

    These liberal Presidents sure get a lot of money after they leave office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Obama gets 400K to speak to Wall Street. Hmm.....

    These liberal Presidents sure get a lot of money after they leave office.
    All presidents do.

    At least Obama didn't get paid until after he left. Unlike Hillary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    All presidents do.

    At least Obama didn't get paid until after he left. Unlike Hillary.
    The Clintons have been corrupt for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    All politicians have been corrupt for decades.
    Fixed that for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Obama gets 400K to speak to Wall Street. Hmm.....

    These liberal Presidents sure get a lot of money after they leave office.
    What about Presidents (and their families) who are still in office?

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    Fine with Obama taking the money... but it reeks of hypocrisy, per usual

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    q1 growth the lowest in 3 years

    so much winning going on


    thanks agent orange
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    q1 growth the lowest in 3 years

    so much winning going on


    thanks agent orange
    just so I'm keeping up... the GDP growth is on Trump but the jobs is on Obama?

    Is that right?

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    in shocking news, he's still finding out things are hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    just so I'm keeping up... the GDP growth is on Trump but the jobs is on Obama?

    Is that right?
    Ha ha.

    Democrat/Liberal/Left core - be hypocritical or make any limelight they are wrong in and send it to the other side. To them they do no wrong.

    Republican/Conservative/Right core - Lie/fake/con until people accept it, when caught, they man up and say "Oh well schit happens" and press on. It ends there, not like the Left that will try every thing known to mankind to prove their hypocritical foresight is correct. Well 1 + 1 is 2 and they will say 3 and will go blue in the face until they prove themselves right. Or better yet, whine constantly with bold characters(57 king of this) or go to their safe place and cry like a little girl that people are bullying them.

    When they (Liberals) decide to accept responsibility of their actions or inaction and grow a pair and not blame everyone except themselves, maybe I will give them more credence because the Right is no better with their greed and bloated philosophy of more is better for the individual and damn anyone else from taking from me and mine. Their lack of empathy/sympathy turns me off as much as the Democrats bitching/complaining/whining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    Ha ha.

    Democrat/Liberal/Left core - be hypocritical or make any limelight they are wrong in and send it to the other side. To them they do no wrong.

    Republican/Conservative/Right core - Lie/fake/con until people accept it, when caught, they man up and say "Oh well schit happens" and press on. It ends there, not like the Left that will try every thing known to mankind to prove their hypocritical foresight is correct. Well 1 + 1 is 2 and they will say 3 and will go blue in the face until they prove themselves right. Or better yet, whine constantly with bold characters(57 king of this) or go to their safe place and cry like a little girl that people are bullying them.

    When they (Liberals) decide to accept responsibility of their actions or inaction and grow a pair and not blame everyone except themselves, maybe I will give them more credence because the Right is no better with their greed and bloated philosophy of more is better for the individual and damn anyone else from taking from me and mine. Their lack of empathy/sympathy turns me off as much as the Democrats bitching/complaining/whining.

    sure
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    On 2 previous Sec of States advise she had a server in her basement .
    And, that angered Andrew Jackson too

    " He was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War. He said, 'There's no reason for this,'" Trump continued.

    But Jackson died in 1845, and the Civil War didn't begin until 16 years later, in 1861.
    ....

    What **** for brains would vote for this guy for dog catcher let alone President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    On 2 previous Sec of States advise she had a server in her basement .
    And, that angered Andrew Jackson too

    " He was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War. He said, 'There's no reason for this,'" Trump continued.

    But Jackson died in 1845, and the Civil War didn't begin until 16 years later, in 1861.
    ....

    What **** for brains would vote for this guy for dog catcher let alone President.
    Yeah, no doubt Trump screwed the pooch there but weren't you the one that defended Obama when he said that it was easier to get a gun than a book? How about when Obama thought there was an Austrian language or that Hawaii was part of Asia? All presidents say stupid stuff at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    Yeah, no doubt Trump screwed the pooch there but weren't you the one that defended Obama when he said that it was easier to get a gun than a book? How about when Obama thought there was an Austrian language or that Hawaii was part of Asia? All presidents say stupid stuff at times.
    I mean in Obama's defense, he was addressing primarily Asian delegations when he said it. Trump wasn't addressing Andrew Jackson's family or even Tennesseans. He was just making a blusterous comparison to one of the most famous presidents.

    Anyway, to address the gun vs. book thing, it was an anecdotal point he was making. If you read the comment it was clear he was pontificating. Not really believing it to be 100% true.

    Trump is just flat out lying or ignorant. Andrew Jackson owned slaves. As president he placated the south who was butthurt that abolitionists were mailing out anti-slavery tracts and let local postmasters determine what to do with them instead of handling it federally which is what the USPS is. All Jackson would have done is the same thing his successors did, punt the ball for the next guy to handle. End result being a country that's attacking itself. Because of people like Jackson.
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