The Trump Presidency

[mqt]

Is there a question?

Climate change is the ultimate "look past tomorrow" issue.

[sturg33]

Climate change is the ultimate "look past tomorrow" issue.

OK... and I looked at the projected cost ($100 Trillion) vs the projected benefit (86/1000 of 1 degree cooler) in the future (83 years from now) and determined that it was a truly stupid, money grabbing treaty from the rest of the world.

That's what looking forward is.

What the left is doing is looking at today and screaming that the world is about to burn.

[goldfly]

i lived long enough to see the republican party that got upset Obama wasn't leading the world and was "leading from behind"

turn 180 degrees and see them give leading the free world to Canada, Germany and France and let China take lead.

sad to see our decline in real time

[goldfly]

I don't know the ins and outs of the Paris deal so I'm not going to comment on that, but Trump's line about representing Pittsburgh and not Paris was a pretty damn good line.

not really


Pittsburgh went for Hillary by over 16%

[goldfly]

Yes: awesome for the US to join Syria and Nicaragua as the only nations actively avoiding a global agreement that seeks to curtail human-produced waste and thus avoid destroying the delicately-balanced globe that is, currently, our only vessel through the cosmos.

I didn't realize give me liberty or give me death covered extinction-level events.

Nicaragua isn't in it cause they don't think it does enough

read they will have 90% of their energy be renewable by 2020

[57Brave]

OK... and I looked at the projected cost ($100 Trillion) vs the projected benefit (86/1000 of 1 degree cooler) in the future (83 years from now) and determined that it was a truly stupid, money grabbing treaty from the rest of the world.

That's what looking forward is.

What the left is doing is looking at today and screaming that the world is about to burn.

Links please
" the world is about to burn " when in fact the literal opposite is true

Would love to see the sources of your numbers

[The Chosen One]

i lived long enough to see the republican party that got upset Obama wasn't leading the world and was "leading from behind"

turn 180 degrees and see them give leading the free world to Canada, Germany and France and let China take lead.

sad to see our decline in real time

"Obama has turned his back on our allies in Europe and Israel"


*looks at Trump's last month*


Heh.

[sturg33]

Links please
" the world is about to burn " when in fact the literal opposite is true

Would love to see the sources of your numbers

The source is the United Nations.

I'd love to see why your reasoning why we should have stayed in other than "everyone's doing it"

[sturg33]

i lived long enough to see the republican party that got upset Obama wasn't leading the world and was "leading from behind"

turn 180 degrees and see them give leading the free world to Canada, Germany and France and let China take lead.

sad to see our decline in real time

I'd say what he did was leading... But go ahead and post a gif of someone laughing rather than telling me why I'm wrong with some substance

[Julio3000]

I'd say what he did was leading... But go ahead and post a gif of someone laughing rather than telling me why I'm wrong with some substance

How do you figure that?

[sturg33]

How do you figure that?

By not agreeing to a dumb deal just because "everyone else is doing it"

[Krgrecw]

By not agreeing to a dumb deal just because "everyone else is doing it"

I imagine some other leaders will pull out now

[57Brave]

OK... and I looked at the projected cost ($100 Trillion) vs the projected benefit (86/1000 of 1 degree cooler) in the future (83 years from now) and determined that it was a truly stupid, money grabbing treaty from the rest of the world.

That's what looking forward is.

What the left is doing is looking at today and screaming that the world is about to burn.

I asked for a link you never provided.
But came across this explaining what both you and Trump mis understood .

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN18S6L0

I'm guessing you don't believe in oil changes or tire rotations.
With children, will you be weighing the costs of vaccinations when making child health care decisions

[sturg33]

You ever planning to tell me the benefits of staying?

The hysteria of pulling out of this non-binding agreement is hilarious... but not surprising

[57Brave]

I haven't seen a viable alternative.

Offer one

[57Brave]

Andy Young‏ @AndyYoungFilm 22h22 hours ago

BREAKING NEWS: Trump shutting down Netflix to help bring back Blockbuster jobs.

[57Brave]

You ever planning to tell me the benefits of staying?

http://dieoff.org/page47.htm

[57Brave]

I imagine some other leaders will pull out now

maybe not so


https://www.climaterealityproject.or...ge-and-drought

[sturg33]

I haven't seen a viable alternative.

Offer one

Sure... let's put a solar roof on every building on the world. It will cost less than $100T.

[57Brave]

You ever planning to tell me the benefits of staying?

The hysteria of pulling out of this non-binding agreement is hilarious... but not surprising

Frank Rich:

“I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris,” Trump declared when he marked his reckless decision with a bizarre Rose Garden celebration (complete with a military band playing jazz). It’s not certain that he even understood that the pact was no more a Parisian invention than Freedom Fries. But facts were always beside the point in making this move: his only goal was to pander to a political base that buys Steve Bannon’s brand of America First populism. In the process Trump alienated virtually the entire world, all of America’s key allies included; the majority of Americans who (polls show) support the Paris accord; corporate leaders from nearly every sector of American business (from Google to Goldman Sachs to GE); and the governmental and civic leaders of every state and municipality eager to protect the citizenry from climate change and/or to cash in on the expanding green economy. What could possibly go wrong?

Not to minimize Trump’s threat to the planet but leadership outside of Washington is now finally energized to fill the vacuum he’s left behind, and the elections of 2018 and 2020 are likely to further hinder this administration’s assault on environmental regulation. Meanwhile, the Trump base is once again being played for the patsies they are. As Richard Painter, the former chief ethics lawyer in the George W. Bush White House, tweeted last night: “This White House is creating more jobs for criminal defense lawyers in Washington than it will ever create for steelworkers in Pittsburgh.”