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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    I made two relevant arguments which you continue to ignore. Capitalism is an inherently peaceful economic system in it's true form and socialism in an inherently violent system. One requires a gun. How is it moral to hold a gun to my head?
    Those are not arguments, those are feelings—and that's fine; but they're no more absurd than my feelings.

    Moreover: how is it anymore moral to hold a gun to my head? Capitalism is just as much an enforced system as you claim socialism would be. The big difference is socialism seeks to share necessary resources equitably, not encourage resource disparity.
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    the statement released from the White House towards Iran and the people of Iran in response to the terrorist attack there is truly an embarrassment and pathetic
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    Love that cNN and MSNBC are showing how bias they are. How many times can you misreport? The piece that still isn't made known to people is that they are doing this on purpose. The media/press is a joke in this country.

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    Nobody wants to talk about how trump wasn't under any investigation this whole time? Where's the collusion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    the statement released from the White House towards Iran and the people of Iran in response to the terrorist attack there is truly an embarrassment and pathetic
    No...it's a truthful statement. Iran is a joke of a state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    No...it's a truthful statement. Iran is a joke of a state.
    Trump is the biggest joke of all time.

    He is so in need of looking Presidential he holds a fake bill signing ceremony. LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    Trump is the biggest joke of all time.

    He is so in need of looking Presidential he holds a fake bill signing ceremony. LMAO
    Trump is a joke. His policies are still the best for America and that's what matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Love that cNN and MSNBC are showing how bias they are. How many times can you misreport? The piece that still isn't made known to people is that they are doing this on purpose. The media/press is a joke in this country.
    what was mis reported ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    what was mis reported ?

    who - what - when and where
    please
    As you have said to me in the past - Google is your friend.

    There have been 3 retractions collectively in the last week.
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    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Whenever I hear the hyperbole of people talking about things Trump is doing being the worst ever, I stop and remember that Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus, Jackson forcibly relocated countless Native Americans resulting in a large number of deaths, and FDR sent thousands of American citizens into internment camps. Those things make Trump look positively saintly. Gives some perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Those are not arguments, those are feelings—and that's fine; but they're no more absurd than my feelings.

    Moreover: how is it anymore moral to hold a gun to my head? Capitalism is just as much an enforced system as you claim socialism would be. The big difference is socialism seeks to share necessary resources equitably, not encourage resource disparity.
    They're not feelings, they are definitions. Socialism is based on collection and redistribution. How do you collect without an actual use of force? By definition capitalism doesn't require that same use of force. The difference is that there's a literal gun to my head, rather than just the figurative one that you think is just always there. Not saying I agree with your language, but if that gun did exist then it exists in a socialist society as well. In other words you would have the figurative gun of life and the literal gun of the socialist state. So, no it's not just as much of an enforced system. In fact in a capitalist system you are more than free to create a socialist community within that system.

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    1. It's important to note that we do not have a capitalist system.

    2. I still can't get my head around how the voluntary, peaceful, exchange of goods is immoral

    3. As weso alluded to earlier... in a capitalist societ, jpx can gather julio, goldfly, 57, and runnin and start their own socialist community if they choose to. In a socialist society, I am NOT ALLOWED to start a capitalist community with weso, aces, and cajun

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Trump is a joke. His policies are still the best for America and that's what matters.
    HE HAS NO POLICY.

    He may as well be called Bush III because so far he been just like the other 2, just progressively worse. Incompetent, making enemies around the world, weakening the EPA, education and other agencies. And the non-stop lying. He ran on whatever, but he's just Bush III, the worst one yet.
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    And tweets yet?
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    This testimony is a snoozefest.

    They got nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    This testimony is a snoozefest.

    They got nothing

    "I took it as a direction." -Comey on Trump wanting Flynn case to go away.
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    James Poniewozik‏Verified account @poniewozik 2m2 minutes ago

    Marco Rubio is asking someone why he did not more vociferously condemn an action of Donald Trump's
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    "I took it as a direction." -Comey on Trump wanting Flynn case to go away.
    Cool. He was very clear about what was said.

    No matter how badly you want to tie Trump to Russia - it's just not there.

    Remember your advice on all the Bengazi hearings? Perhaps you should

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    why is Trump going to these lengths to squash the Russian Investigation?
    Reference his comments to Lester Holt
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