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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    One step at a time. Do you applaud the President for this action?
    Would you applaud a nickel in a pile of dung? I've already said it's a positive development; why must I further "applaud the President"?

    And to head off any potential deflection: President Obama did plenty of small things I liked; it didn't stop me from being That Guy who said, "...but drones," after every achievement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    I, on the other hand, believe in fairness, and think that's more important than whether I personally "end up getting higher percentage raises".
    Forcibly determining fairNess is the opposite of fairness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Getting a higher raise because you perform a higher level is the definition of fairness
    We have differing definitions of fairness—but you already knew that.

    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Forcibly determining fairNess is the opposite of fairness.
    Sturg makes a point; you make a "lol".
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Obama was great at creating part time retail Jobs at walmart.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Subsidized make things more expensive.

    I don't see how putting more money in the hands of people is a bad thing... especially when it was money that they earned, and is theirs, before it's confiscated for services that mostly inefficient and unnecessary
    This, however, is also a lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Speaking of both these issues: U.S. Lawmakers Seek to Criminally Outlaw Support for Boycott Campaign Against Israel.

    This is an across-the-aisle turd sandwich.
    nothing tells me i'm free like my gov't telling me i can't visit Cuba or North Korea if i want and that i must support Israel no matter what
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Obama was great at creating part time retail Jobs at walmart.
    He was great at riding the artificially manufactured prop-up economy created by the fed through 0% interest rates and trillions of $ in QE

    His dumb disciples aren't quite bright enough to understand this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    This, however, is also a lol.
    Is the money I earn, in fact, mine?

    Or does it belong to the government?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Where have I heard that before? Great talking point. What do tax cuts do for those that provide jobs?
    i have no idea where you heard it

    i genuinely don't know what they stand for anymore other than that.

    keeps rich people richer i guess? cause i will laugh hard if you are about to try to sell me on trickle down economics. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    He was great at riding the artificially manufactured prop-up economy created by the fed through 0% interest rates and trillions of $ in QE
    The actual left is as sharply critical of this as you are. We just ascribe different causes and prescribe different solutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    i have no idea where you heard it

    i genuinely don't know what they stand for anymore other than that.

    keeps rich people richer i guess? cause i will laugh hard if you are about to try to sell me on trickle down economics. lol
    On your daily trip to Drudge, perhaps you can tell us what they stand for

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    The actual left is as sharply critical of this as you are. We just ascribe different causes and prescribe different solutions.
    Most of Bernie's supporters also supported Obama.

    I respect the heck out of you for being mostly consistently critical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Is the money I earn, in fact, mine?

    Or does it belong to the government?
    Part of it belongs to the common weal, whose protection is invested in government institutions, as per our laws.
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    let's try to unpack that statement with what i said


    we will go with your dumb theory that i go to drudge daily, if that's true and i'm telling you i am not sure what they stand for anymore other than tax cuts for rich people

    what does that conclude?

    i remember the last 8 years of **** they hated Obama for etc and all of that has been thrown out the window for what belief now that isn't tax cuts for the rich?
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    Can you re-post that in english?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Part of it belongs to the common weal, whose protection is invested in government institutions, as per our laws.
    So why don't the companies just pay the government directly? Why do some people have to pay more taxes than others, at higher rates. Why are there different types of taxes? Why can't I opt out of social security?

    No need to answer this question. I may start a new thread on it. But I believe my earnings belong to me. The government is confiscating a large chunk (much more from me than say, Bernie Sanders, for example). I think it's really really really dangerous to proclaim that people's property in some way belongs to the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post


    we will go with your dumb theory that i go to drudge daily
    All you do is say things I post is straight from Drudge.

    How do you know that without visiting Drudge?

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    let's unpack how those are different statements too

    no where on here have i said i go to drudge daily.

    also no where on here have i said i don't visit drudge


    but hey, keep up the dishonest spin. it's the norm these days
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    let's unpack how those are different statements too

    no where on here have i said i go to drudge daily.

    also no where on here have i said i don't visit drudge


    but hey, keep up the dishonest spin. it's the norm these days
    LOL. You're so fun these days.

    You visit drudge more than me (which is never, by the way)

    But hey, keep saying I do with your dishonest spin. it's the norm these days

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    this reminds me of the days when no one listened to Rush Limbaugh yet sang his song verse and chorus.

    79% you sure your increase wasn't 65 or even 85 ? Because the Drudges and RedStates were handy with that 79% number
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