Page 347 of 1422 FirstFirst ... 2472973373453463473483493573974478471347 ... LastLast
Results 6,921 to 6,940 of 28437

Thread: The Trump Presidency

  1. #6921
    It's OVER 5,000! cajunrevenge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    uranus
    Posts
    25,392
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    4,507
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3,830
    Thanked in
    2,739 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You are trying to say that I'm only talking positively about the government because someone who ran as an (R) is in office.

    I am using objective facts that the pro-business policies are what is driving the economic engine right now.

    You are Sean Hannity without the black heart.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
    Last edited by cajunrevenge; 08-04-2017 at 09:17 AM.
    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

    It’s over."


    Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.

  2. #6922
    Shift Leader thethe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    69,657
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    5,512
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,180
    Thanked in
    3,899 Posts
    So are you refuting the facts presented that this economic surge is due to pro-business policies?
    Natural Immunity Croc

  3. #6923
    I <3 Ron Paul + gilesfan sturg33's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    52,863
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,018
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    8,132
    Thanked in
    5,788 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Another great month in an Obama fiscal year

    Shocker, was going that way a long time for President Obama
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahah aha

    going with the fiscal year analysis, huh?

    Stick to obama god memes and leave the economic talk to the adults

  4. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to sturg33 For This Useful Post:

    acesfull86 (08-04-2017), thethe (08-04-2017)

  5. #6924
    It's OVER 5,000! cajunrevenge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    uranus
    Posts
    25,392
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    4,507
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3,830
    Thanked in
    2,739 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So are you refuting the facts presented that this economic surge is due to pro-business policies?
    I am saying the economy goes in cycles and it was on an upswing when Trump took office. We basically agree on fiscal policy but I don't think Trump has been in office long enough to have much of a positive impact. Presidents policy have more of a long term effect.
    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

    It’s over."


    Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.

  6. The Following User Says Thank You to cajunrevenge For This Useful Post:

    goldfly (08-04-2017)

  7. #6925
    Waiting for Free Agency acesfull86's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    3,923
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    2,765
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,283
    Thanked in
    910 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    I am saying the economy goes in cycles and it was on an upswing when Trump took office. We basically agree on fiscal policy but I don't think Trump has been in office long enough to have much of a positive impact. Presidents policy have more of a long term effect.
    He hasn't been in long enough, but I think Sturg correctly pointed out a couple of pages back that the market is likely behaving in response to expectations...whether those expectations will be realized in the coming months/years is another story (or any number of other shocks will hit the system and have their own pos/neg impacts)

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to acesfull86 For This Useful Post:

    Julio3000 (08-04-2017)

  9. #6926
    Shift Leader thethe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    69,657
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    5,512
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,180
    Thanked in
    3,899 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    I am saying the economy goes in cycles and it was on an upswing when Trump took office. We basically agree on fiscal policy but I don't think Trump has been in office long enough to have much of a positive impact. Presidents policy have more of a long term effect.
    But this is wrong.

    Once Trump cut regulations after being sworn in these companies had free cash flows to allocate to other investments. That is a REAL impact that was felt IMMEDIATELY.

    In addition, business acts based on future information. Budgetting is done a month/quarter/year/5 years in advance. That budgeting is done using forecasted business environments. More friendly regulations/tax policy lead to higher EBITDA figures. As a result the company has more leeway to incur more costs for the purposes of generated more revenue (jobs). And that is why we are where we are right now.
    Natural Immunity Croc

  10. #6927
    I <3 Ron Paul + gilesfan sturg33's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    52,863
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,018
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    8,132
    Thanked in
    5,788 Posts
    I work for a large, mega cap corporation, and in our annual CEO strategy meeting, the CEO literally said that the expectation of regulation easing will allow us to invest more in our technology department, and they have already opened up another 2,000 reqs.

  11. #6928
    Shift Leader thethe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    69,657
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    5,512
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,180
    Thanked in
    3,899 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I work for a large, mega cap corporation, and in our annual CEO strategy meeting, the CEO literally said that the expectation of regulation easing will allow us to invest more in our technology department, and they have already opened up another 2,000 reqs.
    Anyone that has worked for a mid-size and larger company and has sat in strategic meetings would know this.

    The only way to grow the economy and enrich the lives of Americans is to create an environment that is friendly to business. Only afterwards can you start thinking about creating programs to help those that are not as fortunate.
    Natural Immunity Croc

  12. #6929
    It's OVER 5,000! 57Brave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    22,883
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,682
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,889
    Thanked in
    1,420 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Anyone that has worked for a mid-size and larger company and has sat in strategic meetings would know this.

    The only way to grow the economy and enrich the lives of Americans is to create an environment that is friendly to business. Only afterwards can you start thinking about creating programs to help those that are not as fortunate.
    David Corn‏Verified account @DavidCornDC 2h2 hours ago

    Today would be a good day for @realDonaldTrump to release his tax returns
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

  13. #6930
    It's OVER 5,000! 57Brave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    22,883
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,682
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,889
    Thanked in
    1,420 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I work for a large, mega cap corporation, and in our annual CEO strategy meeting, the CEO literally said that the expectation of regulation easing will allow us to invest more in our technology department, and they have already opened up another 2,000 reqs.
    Bet that CEO has a really cool car too

    "expectation" ?

    and when he finished you all jumped up chanting "USA USA ..."


    if I had a nickel for every CEO speech and class envy pointed at bosses --- I would have box seats behind the Braves dugout
    Last edited by 57Brave; 08-04-2017 at 10:36 AM.
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

  14. #6931
    It's OVER 5,000! 57Brave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    22,883
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,682
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,889
    Thanked in
    1,420 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Anyone that has worked for a mid-size and larger company and has sat in strategic meetings would know this.

    The only way to grow the economy and enrich the lives of Americans is to create an environment that is friendly to business. Only afterwards can you start thinking about creating programs to help those that are not as fortunate.
    delrayser‏ @delrayser 18h18 hours ago
    Replying to @delrayser

    Donald J Trump is the greatest dealmaker of our time but also can't iron out a lease with the people who'd jump in front of a bullet for him

    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

  15. The Following User Says Thank You to 57Brave For This Useful Post:

    CK86 (08-05-2017)

  16. #6932
    I <3 Ron Paul + gilesfan sturg33's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    52,863
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,018
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    8,132
    Thanked in
    5,788 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Bet that CEO has a really cool car too

    "expectation" ?

    and when he finished you all jumped up chanting "USA USA ..."


    if I had a nickel for every CEO speech and class envy pointed at bosses --- I would have box seats behind the Braves dugout
    I really don't understand why you always mock real world examples. It wasn't a rah rah speech. There was no mention of Trump's name. It was "here's our roadmap... we believe there will be a loosening of regulations here. We're going to take that money and invest in over there."

  17. #6933
    It's OVER 5,000! 57Brave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    22,883
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,682
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,889
    Thanked in
    1,420 Posts
    but right now it is an expectation
    correct ?

    or in the real world what is called a corporate pep rally
    like every morning at Home Depot
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

  18. #6934
    Shift Leader thethe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    69,657
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    5,512
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,180
    Thanked in
    3,899 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I really don't understand why you always mock real world examples. It wasn't a rah rah speech. There was no mention of Trump's name. It was "here's our roadmap... we believe there will be a loosening of regulations here. We're going to take that money and invest in over there."
    There is no interest in talking about facts.

    Its all sensationalism because they have no message on how to grow the economy and are nervous how well America is doing right now.
    Natural Immunity Croc

  19. #6935
    I <3 Ron Paul + gilesfan sturg33's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    52,863
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,018
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    8,132
    Thanked in
    5,788 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    but right now it is an expectation
    correct ?

    or in the real world what is called a corporate pep rally
    like every morning at Home Depot
    I realize that as a socialist wannabe, that you only look at past and current. That's why the government is so bad with their numbers, they do not know how to look forward.

    Businesses must look forward, and anticipate. So yes, it is an expectation based on the data they have, and they are getting ahead of it.

    Why is the stock market so high? Because of expectations and looking FORWARD.

    I'd say that one day, you'll learn. But I know you never will.

    While you obsess about tax returns from 10 years ago that ultimately will mean nothing in the lives of you and me, businesses are looking at what happens NEXT

  20. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to sturg33 For This Useful Post:

    acesfull86 (08-04-2017), Jaw (08-04-2017), thethe (08-04-2017)

  21. #6936
    It's OVER 5,000! 57Brave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    22,883
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,682
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,889
    Thanked in
    1,420 Posts
    Christopher Hayes‏Verified account @chrislhayes 55m55 minutes ago

    Has the WH considered tasking a small group of operatives with stopping the leaks? Maybe call them the "plumbers" or something like that?


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...ushpmg00000009
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

  22. #6937
    It's OVER 5,000! 57Brave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    22,883
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,682
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,889
    Thanked in
    1,420 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post

    Businesses must look forward, and anticipate. So yes, it is an expectation based on the data they have, and they are getting ahead of it.
    Might be this:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/u...?mwrsm=Twitter

    Economists say that skilled immigrant workers are clearly good for the American economy.
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

  23. #6938
    I <3 Ron Paul + gilesfan sturg33's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    52,863
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,018
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    8,132
    Thanked in
    5,788 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Might be this:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/u...?mwrsm=Twitter

    Economists say that skilled immigrant workers are clearly good for the American economy.
    Literally has nothing to do with my point

    try to keep up

  24. #6939
    It's OVER 5,000! 57Brave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    22,883
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,682
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,889
    Thanked in
    1,420 Posts
    " I realize that as a socialist wannabe, that you only look at past and current. That's why the government is so bad with their numbers, they do not know how to look forward. "



    and I am sure that CEO man understands trends as well, in that they don't turn on a dime.
    As a matter of fact one can transform trends to data while "confidence" and "expectations" have never been know to feed the bulldog.
    Another fact is "confidence and expectations" are more likely to be formed using trends rather than abstract concepts like "confidence and expectation" out of the blue

    The point many here are trying to make is Trump inherited a trend.
    Perhaps should he last in office he will institute policies that will enrich those trends. Maybe not.
    Time will tell

    This to chew on:

    http://money.cnn.com/gallery/news/ec...nal/index.html
    Last edited by 57Brave; 08-04-2017 at 12:06 PM.
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

  25. #6940
    It's OVER 5,000! 57Brave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    22,883
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,682
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,889
    Thanked in
    1,420 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Literally has nothing to do with my point

    try to keep up
    There is hard data to back up the writers claim while your reading of your CEO is based out of thin air.

    Your little buddy supports policies that will stifle skilled immigration
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

Similar Threads

  1. The Pence Presidency
    By nsacpi in forum LOCKER ROOM TALK
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 08-23-2018, 08:14 PM
  2. Trump Taxes
    By 57Brave in forum LOCKER ROOM TALK
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 04-18-2017, 02:22 AM
  3. What will become of the Trump administration?
    By Runnin in forum LOCKER ROOM TALK
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 03-08-2017, 04:52 PM
  4. Trump winning the Presidency...
    By weso1 in forum LOCKER ROOM TALK
    Replies: 29
    Last Post: 12-14-2016, 02:27 PM
  5. Trump U
    By 57Brave in forum LOCKER ROOM TALK
    Replies: 92
    Last Post: 11-26-2016, 11:02 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •