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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Imagine if people publicly stated that they refuse to stay at a hotel that Obama owned. I'm sure they wouldn't be vilified and called 'racist'
    Gee, talk about trying to prove the negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Or we will develop relationships with less adversarial nations which seems like the plan for this administration.

    The market is responding because a lower tax plan is better for business. The environment is more friendly to expansion. Now we need to see if it actually helps the middle class but so far so good for the growth of the economy. Investment into this nation will come soon and that helps everyone.
    Seems like you want it both ways... as the market was crashing, you were with me saying that he wasn't bought and the establishment is terrified. Now that it's surging, you're saying it's policy.

    Either way, I'm enjoying the surge... although I'm heavy in biotech and he went after them yesterday... shameful

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Seems like you want it both ways... as the market was crashing, you were with me saying that he wasn't bought and the establishment is terrified. Now that it's surging, you're saying it's policy.

    Either way, I'm enjoying the surge... although I'm heavy in biotech and he went after them yesterday... shameful
    I think people get the stock market indices confused with the overall strength of the economy. While the economy has been improving since 2009, we're still in fragile territory and there aren't a lot of tools in the box. IF a trade war commences, there will be losers in certain industries in the US and a tariff war would likely increase prices, which would probably force the Fed to raise interest rates to combat inflation. Nothing wrong with that if things stay in a reasonable range. Inflation is low and interest rates are artificially low. The biggest question will be commodity prices, especially oil. If oil stays low, inflation can probably be contained at reasonable levels, but if there's a spike, we may see a considerable downturn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Seems like you want it both ways... as the market was crashing, you were with me saying that he wasn't bought and the establishment is terrified. Now that it's surging, you're saying it's policy.

    Either way, I'm enjoying the surge... although I'm heavy in biotech and he went after them yesterday... shameful
    But his policies are directed towards growth and we are seeing that. I think the futures plummet was one last ditch effort from.the banking sector to get Hillary elected.
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    Hopefully the President-elect listens to his daughter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    But his policies are directed towards growth and we are seeing that. I think the futures plummet was one last ditch effort from.the banking sector to get Hillary elected.
    It's way too early to state that "we are seeing" anything tangible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    A few days ago there was a meme on here complaining about the lack of diversity in his cabinet choices. I guess minorities only count when they toe the Democratic party line.
    if that absurd statement is what you want to believe, have at it

    i mean, people read breitbart and fake Facebook news so i see why you and others could get to that conclusion

    it also has nothing to do with what i said or something i posted
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I hope the left acts like this the whole way through his presidency. It's this smugness that has led to incredible losses at all level of government since the Obama disaster started.
    yeah, that's it
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    if that absurd statement is what you want to believe, have at it

    i mean, people read breitbart and fake Facebook news so i see why you and others could get to that conclusion

    it also has nothing to do with what i said or something i posted
    I don't think you're capable of disagreeing with someone without trying to belittle them...

    typical leftist

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    weird, it seems you could have done a better troll job on that by using those words and comparing it to the man who just got elected president by doing just that


    but hey, it doesn't fit the narrative you had set from the start so have at it
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Hopefully the President-elect listens to his daughter.
    i think the only way that happens is if he finally gets to fulfill his obvious dream of ****ing her
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    It's way too early to state that "we are seeing" anything tangible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    weird, it seems you could have done a better troll job on that by using those words and comparing it to the man who just got elected president by doing just that


    but hey, it doesn't fit the narrative you had set from the start so have at it
    Sorry... I guess I was just too stupid

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    Love the meltdown of the left. Their TYRANNICAL reign globally is coming to an end and they know it.

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    Looks like goldfly's mental state continues its decline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    if that absurd statement is what you want to believe, have at it

    i mean, people read breitbart and fake Facebook news so i see why you and others could get to that conclusion

    it also has nothing to do with what i said or something i posted
    Would you find any of the following acceptable for the cabinet?
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    Oops. Sorry Goldfly. I was attributing the following to you, but it was 57. My mistake.

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    What Populism? Trump’s America Is Party Time for the Corporate Elite

    Trump has facilitated a corporate takeover of federal agencies.

    By Robert Weissman | November 30, 2016



    “Trump has converted the GOP into a populist working-class party,” Trump advisor and far-right economist Stephen Moore told Republican members of Congress at a caucus meeting.


    The leader of the would-be populist working-class party has invited a rogues’ gallery of insiders — corporate lawyers, investment fund managers, corporate executives and wonks hailing from corporate-backed think tanks — to populate the “landing teams” that are doing the nitty-gritty work of transitioning government agencies from control by the outgoing Obama administration to the incoming Trump regime.

    It turns out that nearly three-quarters of the landing teams come from the corporate world or corporate-affiliated think tanks, according to a Public Citizen review.

    And, although the Trump team has kicked registered lobbyists off the transition, at least 13 of the 71 landing team members have been registered lobbyists in the past, some as recent as last year.

    What does the purportedly “populist working-class” transition team look like? Take a look:

    Paul Atkins is in charge of financial regulation for the Trump transition and on the landing teams for the Elizabeth Warren-created Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) and the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC). He is the CEO of Patomak Global Partners, a consulting firm that advises financial services companies on compliance issues. Atkins formerly served as a Republican commissioner of the Securities and Exchange Commission, where he was viewed as being largely opposed to regulation.
    Joel Leftwich is the staff director for the US Senate Committee on Agriculture, Nutrition & Forestry. He was a lobbyist for PepsiCo from 2013 to 2015, and in 2010 was a lobbyist for DuPont.
    There are 10 people on the landing team for the Department of Defense. More than half work now or previously for defense contractors, including Mira Ricardel, a former vice president for Boeing known for advocacy of space laser weapons.
    Michael Dougherty is on the landing team for the Department of Homeland Security. He is the CEO of Secure Identity & Biometrics Association, a trade group that represents the interests of member corporations whose business is security screening technology for airports and border crossings. Previously he worked for Raytheon, a security contractor and, before that, as a Homeland Security official under President George W. Bush.
    Doug Domenech is on the landing team for the Department of Interior. He is director of the Fueling Freedom Project at the Texas Public Policy Foundation, whose self-proclaimed purpose is to “explain the forgotten moral case for fossil fuels.” He also worked for 12 years for the Forest Resources Association, a national trade association representing the forest products industry.
    There are nine people on the landing team for the Department of Justice, predictably drawn heavily from the ranks of corporate law firms. Two thirds of them are involved in corporate criminal defense work!


    There are policies that could be put in place to address the revolving-door problem — individuals leaving government and going to work for the industries they formerly regulated, and from regulated industry into government positions. President Obama took important steps in this direction with an executive order at the outset of his administration but only addressed registered lobbyists. The solution is to change the focus from registered lobbyists to those with financial conflicts of interest — people from or who work for regulated industry should not be able to move seamlessly into jobs as the regulators.

    But what’s going on with the Trump administration is beyond fixing with clear policies. We are witnessing not a populist, working-class revolution, but the wholesale takeover of government by an extremist faction of the corporate class.

    It has become conventional wisdom in Washington that “personnel is policy” — that the people appointed to key positions will make the policy decisions, and are therefore even more important than any particular policy choice. At no time is this more true than now, with a president-elect with minimal interest in policy details.

    So, take a look at the current list of landing team members and their prior affiliations, and you’ll see exactly where things are heading under a Trump administration. Trump voters hoping for anti-establishment, anti-insider politics are in for a rude awakening. It’s party time for Corporate America.

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