Maybe their parents should have been as smart as the Asians.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/30/u...l?mcubz=0&_r=0
Maybe their parents should have been as smart as the Asians.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/30/u...l?mcubz=0&_r=0
Of course we don't but I think we should reserve the right to remove who we want to remove from our country within the guidelines of our laws. But to essentially grant amnesty to a group of people ahead of people who are trying to get here legally is absurd. how is that fair to the people who come here legally?
Natural Immunity Croc
My sympathies to the Dreamers, truly, but we can and should differentiate between their plight and a ****ty, illegal, vote-pandering executive order.
This country desperately needs immigration reform.
Shame that nobody trusts our Congress to get it done.
Giving them permission to stay and work or study, provided that they buy and renew permits and obey the strictures of the program, doesn't seem like such a stretch, nor does it amount to amnesty, particularly considering this is a group of people who were brought to the US as minors.
As for overreach, such "deferred action" programs have been ruled constitutional. There are certain elements of DACA that are on shakier ground, but calling the whole thing "overreach" is overstating the case.
Simply as a practical matter, how is our country improved by rescinding the legal protections assigned to these people?
I'd rather American citizens getting these jobs that the 'dreamers' hold. It will hurt the economy as it takes a while for the labor demand to match up with the labor supply but in the long run the benefits of more Americans working is what is appealing to me.
I think we can solve a lot of issues in the minority communities by offering better economic options. I'm sorry but I put black people in Chicago above illegal immigrants.
Natural Immunity Croc
Well, I think the executive order has polarized a lot of previous legislative common ground, for starters.
We've come a long way since 2006/2007. I don't think bipartisan legislation has much of a chance now, at least with this Congress. Unfortunately, given the way partisan health care 'reform' went, I think we're ****ed.
the only reason it isn't law from congress was republican filibuster cause you know, the Black man was president
passed the house and 55 votes in the senate
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
I asked this before but when did Dems become the party of cheap labor for big business?
Natural Immunity Croc
i am fine helping them too
bringing this up reminds me of people who bring up some random job when people talk about raising minimum wage when it's fast food people.
"why do fast food workers deserve $15 if a hospital worker is only getting $15 an hour".
i am not against the hospital worker or whatever getting paid more too. they are most likely underpaid as well
thus it reminds me of your scenario, "well, what about these other people"
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
We help these people and people from other countries in what...perpetuity? Is there a limit into your mind as to what our country support?
Do you just want to overflood the supply of labor so big business can pay dirt for labor? Do you ever understand the consequences of what you think is 'right'?
Natural Immunity Croc
goldfly (09-05-2017)