The Trump Presidency

[thethe]

the left is an adjective ?

telling

Is that really how you responded?

Did I say the left was the adjective in that sentence?

I worry for your sanity in these days.

[57Brave]

If you are doing a good job there is no need to tell people you are doing a good job.

"know them by their deeds"
Matthew 7:16

[sturg33]

I want another President.
This experiment has been a disaster

" Next man up"
- Mike Tomlin

As in someone that knows how to execute the duties of administering a government.
I really don't care his politics at this point -- we can deal with that later
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This ****ing isn't about Trump.
It is about getting relief to Puerto Rico

I get the sense that you're happy about the disasters because it's an opportunity to take shots at DJT.

The reality is no matter who was President, this wasn't going to be some smooth rescue mission
Saying so is intellectually dishonest

[sturg33]

If you are doing a good job there is no need to tell people you are doing a good job.

"know them by their deeds"
Matthew 7:16

But
.. .

You kinda do... Or else you're letting folks like you on Twitter report that Trump has dropped an atom bomb on PR.

Jaw is the only one in this thread who reporting things objectively and helpfully. You're just a partisan hack

[57Brave]

"Try though as he may to deflect blame for the response to Hurricane Maria, President Donald Trump is the commander-in-chief of these soldiers who were marooned while their countrymen needed all the help they could get."

[57Brave]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

...people are now starting to recognize the amazing work that has been done by FEMA and our great Military. All buildings now inspected.....
8:26 AM - 1 Oct 2017
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No, all buildings have not been inspected

[57Brave]

asked earlier and missed response.
What does war with N Korea look like -- and who is of draft age ?



good luck guys

[thethe]

I wonder what the narrative will be if NK is disarmed.

[57Brave]

If their history is any indicator NK will not be disarmed peacefully.
Going back 66 years of hostility and paranoia


under 40 thethe ?

[Hawk]

I wonder what the narrative will be if NK is disarmed.

Humanitarian crisis.

[57Brave]

and you Hawk, under 40 ?

[thethe]

If their history is any indicator NK will not be disarmed peacefully.
Going back 66 years of hostility and paranoia


under 40 thethe ?

I am under 40 but being alive during a historical event is not a precursor to discussing it. If that were the case I'd like to hear you stop talking about attitudes pre 1950 in this country have negatively impacted minorities. Now that that is settled lets continue:

our response to NK for decades has been less than heavy handed. There is good and there is evil in this world. It doesn't take long to realize that. In those situations where evil becomes too powerful it must be deal with in absolute terms. They cannot be reasoned with because their perception of right and wrong differs so vastly from the rest of the world. NK should have been deal with in more absolute terms for a long time now. Its unfortunate that it will be deal with now that they actually have the power to inflict major catastrophe.

There is no viable option for the future that results in this dynasty to continue. It is just kicking the can further down the road again for our children to deal with it.

[Hawk]

and you Hawk, under 40 ?

Yes.

Jealous?

[Hawk]

I am under 40 but being alive during a historical event is not a precursor to discussing it. If that were the case I'd like to hear you stop talking about attitudes pre 1950 in this country have negatively impacted minorities. Now that that is settled lets continue:

our response to NK for decades has been less than heavy handed. There is good and there is evil in this world. It doesn't take long to realize that. In those situations where evil becomes too powerful it must be deal with in absolute terms. They cannot be reasoned with because their perception of right and wrong differs so vastly from the rest of the world. NK should have been deal with in more absolute terms for a long time now. Its unfortunate that it will be deal with now that they actually have the power to inflict major catastrophe.

There is no viable option for the future that results in this dynasty to continue. It is just kicking the can further down the road again for our children to deal with it.

He's trying to tell you that if there was a war you would be drafted.

He doesn't realize that it's not 1969 anymore.

[thethe]

He's trying to tell you that if there was a war you would be drafted.

He doesn't realize that it's not 1969 anymore.

I don't believe NK's army will fight an inspired fight to begin with. Its a slave nation and once the people get the feeling that freedom is close they will turn on Kim.

The main issue is Seoul obviously and how much death and destruction they will have to endure. Hate to say greater good but in this case I do believe it.

[57Brave]

now where have I heard that before !!!!

Projections are if we do go to war with NKorea 50-50 a land fight. 1-10 nuclear.

Checking around the globe, we have increased troops in Afghanistan to protect a pipeline -- still a few in Iraq/Syria guiding a civil war. Threats against Iran.

Guessing here our military is spread rather thin. Which leaves Eric Prince to direct our military -- is that what everyone sees?
and how many volunteers or mercenaries are there ?

Should we have war with N Korea it is highly probable China gets involved.
Where besides a draft do we find bodies to fight China

Who here will fight for Trump ? At that point he is no longer an abstract leader but your commander in battle.
After the past two weeks in PR -- do you have that much faith in Trump the commander in chief ?

Who here enlists ?

[57Brave]

David Corn‏Verified account @DavidCornDC 1m1 minute ago

How can any secretary of state do the job if the president publicly says, don't bother?

[Hawk]

I don't believe NK's army will fight an inspired fight to begin with. Its a slave nation and once the people get the feeling that freedom is close they will turn on Kim.

The main issue is Seoul obviously and how much death and destruction they will have to endure. Hate to say greater good but in this case I do believe it.

Seoul is a major concern. The US recently installed a missile defense system (THAAD) in several areas on the outskirts of the metro area that might serve as some measure of protection, but the North Koreans have a **** ton of traditional weaponry on DMZ that there's probably no way of neutralizing unless the US carpet-bombed the entire 38th parallel. But, even still, that's ~10 million people in Seoul who could be dead in something like ~30 minutes as a result of a conventional artillery bombardment.

My guess is that the North Korean chain of command could be folded up in rather short order. Then you are going to have a bunch of underarmed, undertrained, and malnourished NK soldiers fleeing toward the border with China (along with ~25 million other displaced North Korean citizens).

The issue is not so much the war itself but what would happen with North Korea afterwards. That would require boots on the ground (or some sort of peacekeeping force) and it would also likely require Chinese (and maybe Russian) consent.

[Hawk]

If you earnestly believe that this country is 'divided' by racial strife pinpointed by kneeling during the national anthem (at a pro football game) then just wait until you see the division that would erupt if the draft were re-established.

Ain't gonna happen.

[57Brave]

hope you're right.

I trust you could handle yourself Hawk -- but I'd worry about thethe.
Have to admit though, the thought of Sturg charging into battle dressed in khakis and brandishing a TikiTorch does give me a chuckle

Let's just hope it never comes to that