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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    What you don't realize is the south won the war. First thing the South did when the troops left was to make laws the cops could use to arrest blacks and try them with all white jurors. Then they used convict leading which coincidentally exploded in popularity all over the south right after the civil war. Alabama was getting 73% of its revenue from convict leasing in 1898. This was eventually banned in 1941 but it's just the same ever evolving scheme. I don't know at what point the cops became the good guys in history but if we are going to use today's standards to people of the past we can't leave out the long history police have of enforcing slavery long after the civil war ended.

    Oh yeah!

    I read that the residents of Atlanta were laughing in the streets while the city burned down around them and a few even openly mocked the Union troops by stating, "You might think you've won by practicing unconditional warfare, but we'll get the last laugh by funding entitlement programs that benefit a higher percentage of blacks than any other race!"

    And the small farm owners who were too poor to own slaves but not to be burned out on Sherman's noble march to the sea are known to have said "This is NOTHING! Just wait until you see our plans to disenfranchise minority voters!"

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    Great job numbers

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    has trump saved coal yet? he has miners rejecting retraining in anticipation.
    or do those plants keep closing?
    something something clean power plan?
    he made an awful lot of promises to these people. when he inevitably fails them, he will blame dems. let's see if they're still foolish enough to buy it.
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    Nt all promises will be met. Reality of politics but infinitely better than our last disaster of a president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    has trump saved coal yet? he has miners rejecting retraining in anticipation.
    or do those plants keep closing?
    something something clean power plan?
    he made an awful lot of promises to these people. when he inevitably fails them, he will blame dems. let's see if they're still foolish enough to buy it.
    Yep. KY and WV are safe but a lot of voters in PA went Trump because of coal. It's great that the economy and manufacturing are up big, but the economy is local to individual people. He has work to do on coal if he wants to keep PA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Yep. KY and WV are safe but a lot of voters in PA went Trump because of coal. It's great that the economy and manufacturing are up big, but the economy is local to individual people. He has work to do on coal if he wants to keep PA.
    That's maybe going to take chemistry or physics more than politics.

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    Wow.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...44397?lo=ap_a1

    Trump’s top economist offers solution to unemployment: More government jobs
    President Donald Trump’s top economist has an unusual idea for dealing with the problem of long-term unemployment: Just have the government hire people.

    That’s a New Deal-style idea more closely associated with highly progressive Democrats. But Kevin Hassett, the conservative chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, believes some Americans are so disconnected from the workforce that the best idea to get them working again could be a federal jobs program that would ultimately lead to private-sector employment.

    “We’ve not done a good job as a society at thinking about how do we take people who have become discouraged and reconnect them,” Hassett said in the latest edition of the “POLITICO Money” podcast. “And it’s such an urgent problem that government programs that directly hire people might be part of the solution.”

    This and other unusual ideas could emerge next year when the White House hopes to pivot from its current tax cut push to an infrastructure bill aimed both at rebuilding crumbling roads, bridges, ports and other national assets and at addressing the shrunken size of the labor force.

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    talking about "saving coal"

    hell, what other jobs should we force back into existence that have long died off?


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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Nt all promises will be met. Reality of politics but infinitely better than our last disaster of a president.
    Of course O didn't share your xenophobia.

    Comparing presidential administrations by arrests and convictions: A warning for Trump appointees
    Jan 12, 2017 5:16am by RoyalScribe


    As Obama’s administration winds to a close, that remains true. Not one criminal indictment for anyone in the Obama administration over the entire eight years of his tenure. In fact, it is the only Presidential administration since Watergate to end with zero criminal indictments.

    The GOP leadership in the Senate is trying to ram through as many as Trump’s controversial nominees as quickly as possible. Most of them have not yet completed FBI security clearance checks or ethics reviews by the United States Office of Government Ethics, something that OGE Director Walter M. Shaub, Jr. has said in a letter has never happened in the four decades since the OGE was established.

    This actually puts Trump’s nominees at personal considerable risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    The GOP leadership in the Senate is trying to ram through as many as Trump’s controversial nominees as quickly as possible. Most of them have not yet completed FBI security clearance checks or ethics reviews by the United States Office of Government Ethics
    Well give them credit, they had good reason not to wait for those checks to come through...

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    from above article of Jan. 12, 2017 A warning to the Trump administration

    Donald Trump’s nominees are already in danger. Trump already has a reputation for deliberately fostering conflicts and rivalries among his subordinates. Somehow he survived despite this behavior in the boardroom, and naturally thrived on it in his reality television career—many viewers turn in to see conflict, not cooperation. But in the White House, it will be a disaster. Enemies will seek to undermine their rivals, and that will mean leaks, investigations (by journalists if Congress shirks its duty), and potential criminal indictments even if the Justice Department turns a blind eye. (Not just one but two of Nixon’s attorneys general ended up going to jail, so a compliant Department of Justice isn’t protection.)

    Trump’s own potential conflicts are too numerous to list, and while the president is exempt from some conflicts of interest laws, it’s not a blanket immunity, especially for things in the Constitution like the Emoluments Clause. (How many of us had even heard of that clause before this election? I only knew of it vaguely as a prohibition of elected officials to accept Titles of Nobility while still in office—Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush’s British knighthoods came after they left office and Dwight Eisenhower’s were awarded before he became president for his leadership in World War II, for which he nevertheless needed congressional authorization at the time since he was still serving in the military.)

    But as I mentioned before, his nominees are at great personal risk if their nominations are rushed through before FBI or Office of Government Ethics review. A conflict that is revealed after they take office could result in criminal indictments. And while President Trump could pardon them for criminal violations (but not civil acts), that only applies to federal charges, not those filed under other state laws, should there be any. And how many pardons can he issue before his own support erodes? Yes, some of his most rabid supporters won’t care (but still want to seek criminal charges against Democrats who didn’t even commit any crimes). But his winning edge in the states that pushed him over the Electoral College top came from a lot of undecided voters who broke for him in the final week (or eleven days, specifically) but won’t stay loyal if scandals grow. (Already, “voted for you Trump“ on Twitter reveals a lot of his disgruntled voters telling him they voted for him but want him to stop tweeting, vet his nominees with proper ethics review, address the Russian hacking issue, and other expressions of disappointment.)

    If they were wise, Trump’s nominees and appointees should insist on an Office of Government Ethics review before taking office for their own legal protection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Well give them credit, they had good reason not to wait for those checks to come through...
    Like one has "good reason" to speed away from a patrol car?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Wow.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...44397?lo=ap_a1

    Trump’s top economist offers solution to unemployment: More government jobs
    President Donald Trump’s top economist has an unusual idea for dealing with the problem of long-term unemployment: Just have the government hire people.

    That’s a New Deal-style idea more closely associated with highly progressive Democrats. But Kevin Hassett, the conservative chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, believes some Americans are so disconnected from the workforce that the best idea to get them working again could be a federal jobs program that would ultimately lead to private-sector employment.

    “We’ve not done a good job as a society at thinking about how do we take people who have become discouraged and reconnect them,” Hassett said in the latest edition of the “POLITICO Money” podcast. “And it’s such an urgent problem that government programs that directly hire people might be part of the solution.”

    This and other unusual ideas could emerge next year when the White House hopes to pivot from its current tax cut push to an infrastructure bill aimed both at rebuilding crumbling roads, bridges, ports and other national assets and at addressing the shrunken size of the labor force.
    In my experience, people who work for the government become less motivated than unemployed people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Wow.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...44397?lo=ap_a1

    Trump’s top economist offers solution to unemployment: More government jobs
    President Donald Trump’s top economist has an unusual idea for dealing with the problem of long-term unemployment: Just have the government hire people.

    That’s a New Deal-style idea more closely associated with highly progressive Democrats. But Kevin Hassett, the conservative chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, believes some Americans are so disconnected from the workforce that the best idea to get them working again could be a federal jobs program that would ultimately lead to private-sector employment.

    “We’ve not done a good job as a society at thinking about how do we take people who have become discouraged and reconnect them,” Hassett said in the latest edition of the “POLITICO Money” podcast. “And it’s such an urgent problem that government programs that directly hire people might be part of the solution.”

    This and other unusual ideas could emerge next year when the White House hopes to pivot from its current tax cut push to an infrastructure bill aimed both at rebuilding crumbling roads, bridges, ports and other national assets and at addressing the shrunken size of the labor force.

    His populism rather than conservatism seen once again. This is another example of why he plays well in certain Blue States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    His populism rather than conservatism seen once again. This is another example of why he plays well in certain Blue States.
    Yep. I'm not a fan of more federal government, but I do like that he isn't following the standard party line, if that makes sense.

    If an infrastructure stimulus is the plan I would rather see the money granted to the states to bypass some of the federal red tape. My county has a few intersections in the middle of nowhere that have been rebuilt lately and have sidewalks along them. The sidewalks are only at the intersection, there are no others within miles. They were a requirement because federal highway money was used for the intersection improvements. What a waste.

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    Robert Mercer announces that he is stepping down from his hedge fund and selling his stake in Breitbart to his daughters.

    Also distances himself from Bannon and announces severing of ties from Yiannopolous, whom he'd previously bankrolled.

    WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Robert Mercer announces that he is stepping down from his hedge fund and selling his stake in Breitbart to his daughters.

    Also distances himself from Bannon and announces severing of ties from Yiannopolous, whom he'd previously bankrolled.

    WTF?
    He's about to be named VP so Trump won't be impeached.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    He's about to be named VP so Trump won't be impeached.
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