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    And you can I need to clarify what you're saying when you say "the x quintile has shrunk."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Care to compare the rate of growth over time amongst those groups?
    I don't care to compare actually because i understand how growth works.

    Like I posted in another thread, if everyone's income suddenly doubled, the gap between classes would be bigger than ever. So you would make the argument that the middle/lower class people's lives are worse?

    Because, that's what you're doing right now

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    Re-posting

    Here's a more detailed look, from the same Urban Institute



    The supposed "shrinking" of the middle class is due completely to people graduating to higher classes, not lower.

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    Miller looked drugged up on that interview with Tapper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Re-posting

    Here's a more detailed look, from the same Urban Institute



    The supposed "shrinking" of the middle class is due completely to people graduating to higher classes, not lower.
    I'm not arguing that the middle class is shrinking.

    I'm asking you to summarize for me the relative growth in wealth between the quintiles. Since you're so good at math and we're morons, I need to lean on you to make sure I'm getting the right information.

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    Julio, do you support equal outcomes? That's a direct question for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Julio, do you support equal outcomes? That's a direct question for you
    I prefer a system that better values and rewards work instead of passive incomes and rents. "Equal outcomes" is a strawman, but a narrower distribution is absolutely preferable to me.

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    So are you going to use your bitchin math skills or what?

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    What are you asking for? The growth of the quintiles over the last 40 years? Can't you just read the data?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I prefer a system that better values and rewards work instead of passive incomes and rents. "Equal outcomes" is a strawman, but a narrower distribution is absolutely preferable to me.
    I guess that's your way of saying yeah... Which, while I appreciate the honesty, and shocked by the conclusion.

    Let me ask a different question... Based on the data posted (let me know if you need help interpreting it), is the economic situation between the quintiles better or worse today than it was in 1980?

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    Ok, so what you are showing is five slices of people labeled variously. Those are not quintiles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    If you have a point to make, make it
    They want socialism and are mad it's not working in Venezuela while a revival of capitalism is thriving in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    And the money it robs from blue states are from wealthy people. Who are democrats at this time? They are very confused in the era of trump.
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    And also make sure we don't elect white women, Christian women, or men

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