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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Going to just ignore this one are we?
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    Well, there goes all that talk about Trump being physically unfit for office. That was fun while it lasted. Whats the next absurd thing the left is going to throw against the wall?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Going to just ignore this one are we?
    Absopositivilutely yes.

    Got any fresh pizzagate takes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Absopositivilutely yes.

    Got any fresh pizzagate takes?
    This is fake news then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    This is fake news then?
    It's not news of any kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    It's not news of any kind.
    So you have determined that htere isn't even a remote possibility that Alex Fields was chased by this anti-fa member fearing for his life as he got into his car and accelerated away tragically killing an innocent bystander.

    There is no way the two are connected at all even though the Anti-fa member ADMITTED that he chased him before the killing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So you have determined that htere isn't even a remote possibility that Alex Fields was chased by this anti-fa member fearing for his life as he got into his car and accelerated away tragically killing an innocent bystander.

    There is no way the two are connected at all even though the Anti-fa member ADMITTED that he chased him before the killing?
    Considering that he's charged with 1st degree murder and there is video of the incident and a zillion witnesses, I'm going to leave that to be determined in court. If that's his defense, it'll be adjudicated. I rather doubt that scenario, and I don't consider the source "news" of any kind.

    Hey, how's it going with the antifa- derailed-the-train-in-Washington thing, btw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Considering that he's charged with 1st degree murder and there is video of the incident and a zillion witnesses, I'm going to leave that to be determined in court. If that's his defense, it'll be adjudicated. I rather doubt that scenario, and I don't consider the source "news" of any kind.

    Hey, how's it going with the antifa- derailed-the-train-in-Washington thing, btw?
    All I did was report news from their own website. Sorry if that upset you but what I reported was truth. Not sure I actually said they were responsible for the derailment even though the implication could certainly be assumed there.

    But sure - Having a person admit they were chasing you with a rifle during a hectic period is not worth discussing at all. Keep believing that. I'm not saying this man wasn't driving the car or killed this innocent bystander but its all about what potentially drove someone to do it. Was it disgusting hatred as we have all concluded on or is it a little more than that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I'll bet this doesn't get much response
    Think I called this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Think I called this one
    Sturg - Immigration is always a positive for the host country. Nobody loses in this situation. You must submit to this idea. No facts about crime and economic impacts will be tolerated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Sturg - Immigration is always a positive for the host country. Nobody loses in this situation. You must submit to this idea. No facts about crime and economic impacts will be tolerated.
    I was more interested in the liberal policies (min wage, welfare investment, etc) than the immigration angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I was more interested in the liberal policies (min wage, welfare investment, etc) than the immigration angle.
    Liberal policy and illegal immigration are one in the same. Why do you think there is such a demand for welfare services in California? Look at where poverty levels have moved in California the last 50 years and then mirror that with illegal immigration levels. Importing low skill labor only drives wages down and makes people less wealthy. Well, except the lords of the land like silicon valley and politicians who are the ones that push the agenda to let more low skilled immigrants into the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Liberal policy and illegal immigration are one in the same. Why do you think there is such a demand for welfare services in California? Look at where poverty levels have moved in California the last 50 years and then mirror that with illegal immigration levels. Importing low skill labor only drives wages down and makes people less wealthy. Well, except the lords of the land like silicon valley and politicians who are the ones that push the agenda to let more low skilled immigrants into the country.
    It's a fair point. I've never really studied the effects of immigration on wages. I'm generally not as passionate about immigration as other priorities (like individual liberty).

    Although, that gets me mocked as a freedom lover around these parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    It's a fair point. I've never really studied the effects of immigration on wages. I'm generally not as passionate about immigration as other priorities (like individual liberty).

    Although, that gets me mocked as a freedom lover around these parts
    If you believe in individual liberty as strongly as I know you do then immigration should be a big issue. As more poor people are brought in this country who do you think they will vote for or for those that don't believe any illegals vote what do you believe their children born here will vote for? It starts another class of people that are dependent on the governments teet that will eventually vote the liberties that you and I want away for the sake of government support.

    Its all part of the plan to destabilize America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    If you believe in individual liberty as strongly as I know you do then immigration should be a big issue. As more poor people are brought in this country who do you think they will vote for or for those that don't believe any illegals vote what do you believe their children born here will vote for? It starts another class of people that are dependent on the governments teet that will eventually vote the liberties that you and I want away for the sake of government support.

    Its all part of the plan to destabilize America.
    I believe our education system and media is a bigger threat than individuals who are promised the golden goose in exchange for votes

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I believe our education system and media is a bigger threat than individuals who are promised the golden goose in exchange for votes
    All of these methods are used to advance the radical ideology and reshape America to a form that it was never meant to be
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    All of these methods are used to advance the radical ideology and reshape America to a form that it was never meant to be
    My favorite sentences are full of irony and truth. The GOP's mission statement is how to let the minority rule the majority while still pretending to be democratic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    My favorite sentences are full of irony and truth.
    The irony is that you don't see how the expansion of the social welfare system slaps individual liberty in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I was more interested in the liberal policies (min wage, welfare investment, etc) than the immigration angle.
    We could argue about the efficacy or efficiency of this program or that one, but when your starting point is that all social spending is bad and taxes are theft, there's not much of a discussion to be had.

    Go back and read Friedman on the negative income tax. It proved to be impractical as conceived, but the point is that Friedman recognized that redistribution was necessary to defray the concentration of wealth that is inevitable in a capitalist system.

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