The Trump Presidency

[Hawk]

I have a couple good friends among the great unwashed who have promised me refuge in their basements.

I've been thinking of buying a doomsday bunker in Galata, MT.

You could go in with me. 90/10.

[Hawk]

My three children would all make outstanding presidents, especially the one with psychopathic tendencies.

If a guy like Trump can get elected (who's apparently a rapist, a serial cheat, a wife-abuser, a coke-head, a geriatric alzheimer autist, not to mention a complete moron, criminal, habitual liar, and a Russian) then anyone can.

[nsacpi]

If a guy like Trump can get elected (who's apparently a rapist, a serial cheat, a wife-abuser, a coke-head, a geriatric alzheimer autist, not to mention a complete moron, criminal, habitual liar, and a Russian) then anyone can.

don't forget collaborator

[nsacpi]

I've been thinking of buying a doomsday bunker in Galata, MT.

You could go in with me. 90/10.

How close is it to the border.

[Hawk]

How close is it to the border.

60 miles, as the crow flies.

[nsacpi]

60 miles, as the crow flies.

I'd like to be closer, but that's not bad.

I've been doing research on how many countries I could get passports from: 5 I believe (plus the U.S.). Gonna need them all.

[Jaw]

Yup. This one is on the electorate.

Democracy is not perfect. Just better than the alternatives. Now and then it lays a turd.

Trump is the duly elected president. Russian interference was unlikely the decisive factor. So as we move forward, I hope the people who facilitated Trump's rise will avoid burying this episode in some dusty corner of the attic and instead have the courage to give themselves an honest look in the mirror.

This ranks as one of the most monumental civic failures in U.S. history.

There are a lot of things about him that are there in plain sight for anyone willing to open their eyes to see. He is a career criminal. He is a collaborator with a hostile country. He is a misogynist. He lacks basic knowledge. He lacks basic stability and maturity. He is surrounded by a very shifty swampy group of people. Most of this has been obvious from way way back for anyone willing to open their eyes. It has been out there in the open. Trump did not hide who he is.

We got lucky in the sense that his stupidity and incompetence appear to have outstripped his venality. If the proportions between those qualities had been reversed we would be looking at a much bigger crisis.

This is such a bizarre situation for our country to be in. I don't respect the man. I certainly don't like him, and I wouldn't sit down to a meal with him. As a person he has been worse than I feared before the election. I really thought that the responsibility of the office would have a calming effect on him. I was terribly mistaken. And yet, seeing his actual policy decisions and knowing what the alternative to his Presidency was, I don't regret my vote. It's confounding.

[Krgrecw]

This is such a bizarre situation for our country to be in. I don't respect the man. I certainly don't like him, and I wouldn't sit down to a meal with him. As a person he has been worse than I feared before the election. I really thought that the responsibility of the office would have a calming effect on him. I was terribly mistaken. And yet, seeing his actual policy decisions and knowing what the alternative to his Presidency was, I don't regret my vote. It's confounding.

And yet If the election were held today, he’d win by a bigger margin.

[Jaw]

I don't know about that. The downright hatred from the left side of the aisle is having a galvanizing effect so far in elections.

[bravesnumberone]

Wut

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...mepage%2Fstory

[Jaw]

Mattis and Tillerson may be the two most important men in America right now. Those guys have kept most of the foreign relations on a stable path.

[goldfly]

3 hatch act violations of the law

Man, this orange one really backing up his words about law and order

[57Brave]

Mattis and Tillerson may be the two most important men in America right now. Those guys have kept most of the foreign relations on a stable path.

The State Department is without key posts.
Career diplomats are leaving in droves and not being replaced. And people even wanting to work there are few and far between,
Haven't even gone into Jane Mayer's report that Russia positioned Tillerson for SOS

And you see Tillerson is keeping our foreign policy afloat ?
But of course the Titanic temporarily stayed afloat immediately after striking an iceberg


Of all the problems created by right wing rule it is the shortsightedness of policy that makes me the craziest

[Runnin]

I don't know about that. The downright hatred from the left side of the aisle is having a galvanizing effect so far in elections.

From your comments of late there's disillusionment in other parts of the political spectrum as well.

[57Brave]

I hear posters, Fox, Limbaugh etal talk about "all the hatred on the left"

Could someone please give examples of this purported "hate"

Or disagreement reframed as an emotion ?

[57Brave]

From where I sit treating CHIP as,a bargaining chip to make a border wall campaigb promice more indictitive of a neagative emotion.

Or neglect of Puerto Rican srorm victims .

Curios to see what exactly our Trumpian brethren think

[sturg33]

I hear posters, Fox, Limbaugh etal talk about "all the hatred on the left"

Could someone please give examples of this purported "hate"

Or disagreement reframed as an emotion ?

Well for example the you have mocked Trump's tariffs when you you supported them when Bernie was begging for them.

Just goes to show that no matter what he does yiu won't be satisfied.

Consistency is hard

[57Brave]

That constitutes, "hate" ?

[Jaw]

From your comments of late there's disillusionment in other parts of the political spectrum as well.

The porn star hush money shell game disillusioned me a lot. We've certainly seen several cases of good presidents being pervs before. I would even say that some of the rumors about WJC using his power as Governor to keep things quiet were as bad or worse than Trump's payoffs. I don't care for either. Serial adulterers earn a special level of disrespect from me, whether or not I voted for them.

[nsacpi]

The porn star hush money shell game disillusioned me a lot.

Really. Then I have to say you have been averting your gaze for the past couple years.