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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I'm just not sure I'm seeing the reasoning behind suggesting that the election provides universal absolution.
    Absolution isn't the word. Reprieve is more how I'd characterize it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I would say actions are more important. You know it is possible to appoint a female CIA director and still be highly misogynistic in your behavior.
    But where is the proof? What he said to Billy Bush?

    How about the porn stars who are claiming an affair that said he was a gentleman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    and this is the signifigance of the warrants to search Cohen's residences and offices


    With the referral of the investigation of Trump’s personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, to federal prosecutors in Manhattan, this thing has now spread beyond the president’s ability to contain it. What is he going to do: Fire the entire Southern District? This is a wildfire Trump has to let burn; he can’t put it out — probably not even with a spate of mass pardons.
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    He's got a different problem now. Firing Mueller would not get rid of the investigation being conducted by the Southern District.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    But where is the proof? What he said to Billy Bush?

    How about the porn stars who are claiming an affair that said he was a gentleman?
    I dunno the # of women is around 20 now alleging pretty gross and inappropriate behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    note that the State Attorney that executed the warrant was a law partner of Rudy Giuliani .
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    To say noting of the fact that Trump appointed the judge who signed the warrant.
    What, exactly, is the implication here?

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    i would guess that it isn't some partisan witch hunt
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I dunno the # of women is around 20 now alleging pretty gross and inappropriate behavior.
    Where is the proof he has actually acted upon this accused misogyny?

    And further, how does one define gross and inappropriate? Is a horny man misogynistic? This is such an odd argument that I can't believe people are making. So any man that tries to hit on a women in an inappropriate fashion has a deeply ingrained contempt for women?
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    i would guess that it isn't some partisan witch hunt
    Really?

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    All of this misplaced angst toward Facebook sincerely bothers me.

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    Also Dick Durbin is a ****ing moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Where is the proof he has actually acted upon this accused misogyny?

    And further, how does one define gross and inappropriate? Is a horny man misogynistic? This is such an odd argument that I can't believe people are making. So any man that tries to hit on a women in an inappropriate fashion has a deeply ingrained contempt for women?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    "Bleeding from her wherever".

    With the Orange one, words are actions.
    That's not misogyny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    words are actions.
    This pretty accurately summarizes the strength of the “Trump is a sex predator” argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    This pretty accurately summarizes the strength of the “Trump is a sex predator” argument.
    Don't forget the dozen or so women who claim Trump attacked them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Absolution isn't the word. Reprieve is more how I'd characterize it.
    Well...I mean....er...I suppose a sort of clean slate, sure.

    The election didn't baptize him anew as a totally different human being, though. His qualities have put a singular stamp on events so far, and not one that dissuades me from my opinion about who the guy is. Hell, he dug the Mueller hole himself, by making Flynn NSA then leaning on and firing Comey. I'm fairly confident that he's going to **** up worse before he's done. I could be wrong, but I think his track record suggests it.

    This reminds me of an exchange we had early last year when you asked me where his young administration was taking on water...right before the Flynn story broke. I think we both saw what we wanted to see, then and now. I think we've given the car keys to a drunk. You want to emphasize that he's only weaving a little bit, we're safe so far, and hey, he's a pretty good driver. I think we're more likely to end up driving off a bridge than we are to make it home safely.

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    So Michael Cohen doesn't want to end up being the fall guy. Good for him. I hope he will put himself and his family first. I think the tenor of his interview with CNN and the choice of CNN to give that first interview to speaks volumes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    That's not misogyny
    The actual terms and definitions of his afflictions are not important. He's clearly a sick SOB. Arguing that he is not a sick man is to show yourself unwell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    So Michael Cohen doesn't want to end up being the fall guy. Good for him. I hope he will put himself and his family first. I think the tenor of his interview with CNN and the choice of CNN to give that first interview to speaks volumes.
    Knowing Trump as he clearly should have, it's a little late to put himself and his family first, imho. He should've bailed the day T became President, but maybe that would've already been too late.

    I'm curious how a guy so young and clumsy with the law came to be known as Trump's personal lawyer and "fixer". He doesn't seem to have the expertise or experience for such a position. The Stormy scandal is total incompetence on the Trump side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    Knowing Trump as he clearly should have, it's a little late to put himself and his family first, imho. He should've bailed the day T became President, but maybe that would've already been too late.

    I'm curious how a guy so young and clumsy with the law came to be known as Trump's personal lawyer and "fixer". He doesn't seem to have the expertise or experience for such a position. The Stormy scandal is total incompetence on the Trump side.
    not too late...or better late than never...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    not too late...or better late than never...
    Remember that he bullies people for a living. And that's what bullies do when cornered, they suddenly act all innocent and nice.
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