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    there wasn't a super majority unfortunately

    i guess you could call it a "historical mandate" but i think you are stretching with that imo
    "If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin. It is a very great mistake to imagine that the object of loyalty is the authority and interest of one individual man, however dignified by the applause or enriched by the success of popular actions.” Samuel Adams

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    Are you for real?

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    as real as cancer
    "If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin. It is a very great mistake to imagine that the object of loyalty is the authority and interest of one individual man, however dignified by the applause or enriched by the success of popular actions.” Samuel Adams

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    A) There was filibuster proof majority for a (short) time, after that just a simple majority. The legislation sucked - the rollout was abysmal - too expensive, ****ty coverage. End of story.

    B) So the 2008 election was not historical? Okay, lol.

    - Highest turnout since 1908
    - Record African-American and Hispanic turnout

    Dude, google some **** or something. This is boring.
    Last edited by Hawk; 04-16-2018 at 02:49 AM.

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    lol

    uh, the senate never got to 60

    again, unfortunately

    but whatever

    sorry you're bored
    "If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin. It is a very great mistake to imagine that the object of loyalty is the authority and interest of one individual man, however dignified by the applause or enriched by the success of popular actions.” Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    i try to imagine the type of person that is amazed by people liking someone cause they used their position to try to get healthcare for everyone

    and said person thinks that's a negative

    and it reminds me to be thankful i am not them to think that is awful

    and i say that as someone that doesn't even really like the plan he went with cause he knew his opposition that really didn't have a legitimate reason to hate him was gonna be opposed to everything he did and went with their plan that they try to claim that hate even though they came up with said plan
    After sifting through the incoherent ramblings, I'll remind you that it's me who doesn't believe the government should force women to not have control over their bodies.

    I support women's choice to not buy health insurance if she doesn't want it.

    I guess that's so-called freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    A) There was filibuster proof majority for a (short) time, after that just a simple majority. The legislation sucked - the rollout was abysmal - too expensive, ****ty coverage. End of story.

    B) So the 2008 election was not historical? Okay, lol.

    - Highest turnout since 1908
    - Record African-American and Hispanic turnout

    Dude, google some **** or something. This is boring.
    60 votes ended in Jan 2010, and that's counting Joe Lieberman as in the tent . . . and in the context of health care, he decidedly was not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    After sifting through the incoherent ramblings, I'll remind you that it's me who doesn't believe the government should force women to not have control over their bodies.

    I support women's choice to not buy health insurance if she doesn't want it.

    I guess that's so-called freedom
    This is specious, even for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    This is specious, even for you.
    Do tell

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    Interesting take on Cohen's role within the Trump organization.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...om-trump-world
    “It's a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning.” Senator Bob Corker

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    Since the Southern District is claiming the crime-fraud exemption to attorney-client privilege, I assume that at some point soon they will provide the reasons why they believe that exemption applies in this particular situation.
    “It's a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning.” Senator Bob Corker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    60 votes ended in Jan 2010, and that's counting Joe Lieberman as in the tent . . . and in the context of health care, he decidedly was not.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/25/h.../25health.html

    That's 2009.

    And that's 60 votes.

    Not to mention the other preceding bits of formulative legislation that also went party-line.
    Last edited by Hawk; 04-16-2018 at 10:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    lol

    uh, the senate never got to 60

    again, unfortunately

    but whatever

    sorry you're bored
    There were 60 reliable Democrat votes at various points in 2009 and a month into 2010.

    This shouldn't be up for debate.
    Last edited by Hawk; 04-16-2018 at 11:23 AM.

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    Reliable ?

    Arlen Specter switched parties to avoid being turfed out.
    And Lieberman who waffled until the last minute was actually an (I) - as was Bernie Sanders

    Interesting period
    ..................

    Also interesting reading Massachusetts politics post Ted Kennedy
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    Yes, reliable.

    Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman (you know, the two guys who ran for Democratic President and Democratic Vice President, respectively) were reliable Democratic votes.

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    Hey Hawk, it is dark at night !!!

    That might be the first time the name Joe Lieberman and reliable were used in a sentence.
    But whatever -- end of the day we have ACA which my morning reading tells me is still more popular than the Trump/Ryan Tax cuts.

    Take time to read Scott Brown's ACA story
    .....................
    and, the term is Democratic -- unless you are now a Rush Limbaugh / Joe McCarthy apologist as well ?
    I think "we" all know the answer to that
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Hey Hawk, it is dark at night !!!
    Yes, I know, I'm a hawk.

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    90% of votes align with Democrats.

    But not reliable.

    Pull that wool away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    my morning reading
    I'd pay good money to see a record of what this is constituted of.

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    Surprised you of all people end a sentence with "of"

    I remember a time when you would scold a poster or spend a page touting your elevated gramatic skills.
    Must be hard these past few months.
    Maybe you need a break ...
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