The Trump Presidency

[sturg33]

Tell me why trickle down doesn't work. Or we can take it to the economics thread

[cajunrevenge]

oh god, someone claiming Hilldog wasn't a bad/flawed candidate. She had an extraordinary unfavorability eating in polls and her main selling points were she is a woman, she can raise a literal assload of money, and it's her turn. She ran as a status quo candidate after her own party had the presidency for 2 terms. That's an almost impossible spot to win in no matter how popular the previous president was. She purposely used a private email see her so that her emails wouldn't be subject to freedom of information act requests and her own campaign staff pointed out this was a big problem. She was also the establishment candidate. People hate that.

[57Brave]

i dunno...although i much preferred her to Trump, she has a grating quality that has nothing to do with politics or policy...is that lazy and nonsensical

I listened to Michelle Wolf on Fresh Air the other day where she addressed that "grating quality"
To me that yes, that is as lazy and nonsensical as deciding who should be POTUS based on the color of a mans tie or the hairstyle of a woman candidate.

I find Rand Paul grating. But think it has a different meaning talking about him than it does when talking about her.

[Hawk]

michelle wolf would know a thing or two about grating

and slackjaw

[57Brave]

People hate that.

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[57Brave]

michelle wolf would know a thing or two about grating

and slackjaw

she said the same

[cajunrevenge]

HRC was a big proponent of the Iraq war.

Trump wasn't.

Should I go on?

1994 crime bill which a lot of black people are still bitter over. Also maybe that she polled above Bernie by 20 points in the polls in Michigan and Wisconsin primaries only for Bernie to win should have told people something.

[thethe]

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Illegals

[57Brave]

What made Romney a flawed candidate ? McCain?
Dole ? Kerry ? Gore ?
Do we see a pattern here

It is obvious anyone who runs for office and loses is "flawed"

[thethe]

What made Romney a flawed candidate ?

He was honest about the people that don't contribute to the tax pool.

But the reason he didn't win was because he was rich and that was easily demonized by a charismatic Obama.

[57Brave]

and had he won, would he still have been a "flawed candidate" ?

[thethe]

and had he won, would he still have been a "flawed candidate" ?

I don't think he was flawed at all from a character standpoint (which is something that Hillary suffered from). His flaw was that he didn't understand electoral politics enough and that comment ruined him. He also happened to go against a generational candidate that probably would have beaten almost anyone put up against him.

[57Brave]

He understood electoral politics well enough to garner the nomination of one of the two major parties to be POTUS.

The notion of the flawed candidate became a go to phrase for TV pundits after Romney I think. Used by Republicans as an excuse to why (R) lost the election. It was Romney's candidacy that lost it they said, not the policies they espouse or the state of the country.
Elections are referendums not beauty contests.


After the election (R) spent a lot of time naval gazing as to why women and minorities turned on them. Remember ?

[thethe]

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertai...-kanye/559763/


I’m Not Black, I’m Kanye
Kanye West wants freedom—white freedom.

An eloquent, roundabout way of saying that Kanye is an Uncle Tom.

Its fascinating how the left has gotten away with being racist against black people. The assumption they are monoliths and should always vote in one direction is a stereotype. But its ok because its the lefts stereotype.

[thethe]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/30318...-ryan-saavedra

Hey Look! More disaster Obama policy.

[thethe]

All makes sense why a deal like this would be made...

[sturg33]

He understood electoral politics well enough to garner the nomination of one of the two major parties to be POTUS.

The notion of the flawed candidate became a go to phrase for TV pundits after Romney I think. Used by Republicans as an excuse to why (R) lost the election. It was Romney's candidacy that lost it they said, not the policies they espouse or the state of the country.
Elections are referendums not beauty contests.


After the election (R) spent a lot of time naval gazing as to why women and minorities turned on them. Remember ?

And as it turns out Obama laughed at Romney for being worried about Russia, when today all the sudden Russia is "the biggest threat to our democracy and freedom in the world"

[Julio3000]

You are going to have to connect the dots between electoral litigation of DJT for grabbing vagina and Michael Cohen doing business with waste management folk.

But I think that's my point.

Right. Trump Org VP, President's personal lawyer and negotiator of hush money payments, later installed as RNC Deputy Finance Chair is totally removed from and irrelevant to Donald Trump.

[57Brave]

And as it turns out Obama laughed at Romney for being worried about Russia, when today all the sudden Russia is "the biggest threat to our democracy and freedom in the world"

you are applying 2018 standards to 2012 situations.
Pre Crimean - Post Crimean (2014)

Obama sanctioned Russia - to the point of Trump ... adoptions

[sturg33]

Lol ok