The Trump Presidency

[sturg33]

Consumer confidence hits 18 year high... I do apologise for averting my gaze from the soap opera.

Back to it

[sturg33]

I have wondered if the Republicans would benefit from impeaching Trump.

Removing him before the midterms would take the air out of the crowd that likes to go outside and scream at the sky, and Republicans would gain a modicum of respect from the truly independent.

Pence would probably be identical policy wise, without the circus that surrounds Trump. We would still hear about how he wants gays to die and is LITERALLY HITLER from the more hysterical part of the left, but overall the situation would instantly be more tenable for anyone with an R beside their name. Maybe they're afraid they would lose a large percentage of Trump voters?

I'm pretty confident that the left will hate Pence worse than Trump... And frankly anyone the right throws out there.

Pence is too Christian for the left. That's not going to stand.

After all, he's definitely going to kill the gays and not allow women to work.

[50PoundHead]

@50, amash didn't vote for these spending bills

I know. But he did vote for the tax bill. I was talking about the Dems who voted for the spending bills and then talk about the deficit. My point is that anyone who voted for either the tax bill or the spending bills and then complains about the deficit is swimming in the shallow end.

[nsacpi]

Consumer confidence hits 18 year high... I do apologise for averting my gaze from the soap opera.

Back to it

I imagine 18 years ago you must have been singing Bill Clinton's praises. Budget surplus, soaring stock market and wonderful consumer confidence. What a combination!

[sturg33]

I imagine 18 years ago you were singing Bill Clinton's praises. Budget surplus, soaring stock market and wonderful consumer confidence. Bill done good.

I was 10 so I probably wasn't

[sturg33]

I know. But he did vote for the tax bill. I was talking about the Dems who voted for the spending bills and then talk about the deficit. My point is that anyone who voted for either the tax bill or the spending bills and then complains about the deficit is swimming in the shallow end.

Deficits are created by spending more money than you have.

A constitutional conservative can absolutely support tax cuts and complain about deficits. They simply have to cut spending at some point or the day of reckoning will be sooner than we'd like

[nsacpi]

I was 10 so I probably wasn't

Now that you have the perspective of age, I'm sure your regard for Clinton economic policy is a suitably high one.

[nsacpi]

Deficits are created by spending more money than you have.

As a purely mathematical proposition it reflects tax revenues falling short of expenditures. There are two sides to the coin.

[sturg33]

Now that you have the perspective of age, I'm sure your regard for Clinton economic policy is a suitably high one.

He did some things fine and other things horribly.

But I'm happy to put the onus of the housing crisis under his watch

[sturg33]

As a purely mathematical proposition it reflects tax revenues falling short of expenditures. There are two sides to the coin.

so... spending more than we have?

[57Brave]

The episode has managed to combine most of the worst aspects of Donald Trump’s presidency: pettiness as a major motivating force for administration policy, a preference for sowing division over unity, disdain for tradition and norms, chaotic decision making, and an ultimate tendency to surrender.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...rocosm/568696/

[nsacpi]

so... spending more than we have?

spending is part of it...the other side of the coin is tax revenues...2 parts

[nsacpi]

The episode has managed to combine most of the worst aspects of Donald Trump’s presidency: pettiness as a major motivating force for administration policy, a preference for sowing division over unity, disdain for tradition and norms, chaotic decision making, and an ultimate tendency to surrender.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...rocosm/568696/

and the best part...the petulant arms folded across chest pose....that is my favorite thing about Trump...that pose is priceless...he doesn't go into it very often...it seems to be a tell of sorts

[Super]

Consumer confidence hits 18 year high... I do apologise for averting my gaze from the soap opera.

Back to it

from the felonies?
oh. ok.

[50PoundHead]

Deficits are created by spending more money than you have.

A constitutional conservative can absolutely support tax cuts and complain about deficits. They simply have to cut spending at some point or the day of reckoning will be sooner than we'd like

Oh, folks who voted for the tax bill can complain about the deficit. It's just hypocritical to do so. The budget entails both money coming in and money going out. If there is less money coming in and more money going out, it's doubly dangerous situation. But both elements of the equation play into the booming deficit.

[Super]

Pence is too bigoted for the left. That's not going to stand.

ftfy

[sturg33]

ftfy

Aren't those just synonymous?

[Jaw]

Aren't those just synonymous?

Just like "Republican" and "racist." It's really quite simple.

[Super]

Just like "Republican" and "racist." It's really quite simple.

the people who support donald trump? never!

[Julio3000]

He did some things fine and other things horribly.

But I'm happy to put the onus of the housing crisis under his watch

He’s partially in the hook for that, but you’re gonna need to run that one down for me.