The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
So, placing this in context...”rapists and murderers” is pretty indisputably racist. The comments about Curiel are racist, according to Jaw, Paul Ryan, etc. Those comments were directed towards “Mexicans.” But when the administration enacts a draconian policy with disproportionate impact on Mexican and South/Central American immigrants, it’s out of bounds to place it within that context?
context isn't everything and sometimes can be applied in a misleading way...but it cannot be ignored...certainly not with respect to Trump and Mexicans and other Hispanics
ditto the travel ban and Muslims
he is a scapegoater and bigot of the the first magnitude
for some of his supporters that is a bug...but for all too many it is a feature they find appealing
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"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
I think Obama’s deportation record was deplorable. He also enacted DACA, etc, and was willing to sign the comprehensive reform bill that the Freedom Caucus torpedoed. So there’s at least a patina of good-faith progress there.
I’m not sure if you’re following what I’m saying. The family separation policy/zero tolerance is a policy change, not merely “enforcing the law.” Given who it targets. I’m asking why we can’t frame it within the context of the demonstrated racist/Nativist sentiment of Trump (and, frankly, Trump’s base).
Trump needs to stay off of social media for sure.
His criticisms of Sessions over and over show that he thinks Sessions' main job is to bend justice to his benefit.
edit: Btw, is there not a law that prevents the President from declaring to the Attorney General (publicly, even) that he is expected to run the Justice Department to the benefit of him and his own political party? Is this not grounds for immediate arrest and detention as an Enemy of the State?
When are the Dems going to wake up and realize that Trump and the GOP have declared war on the institution of democratic govt? When they are in the gulag?
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"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
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Is that the extent of your takeaway here? That the insinuation was they should not have been prosecuted, at all? How about reframing that into a criticism of judicial timeline?
In general, I think it’s below the office of the President to muckrake in party business, but it’s a new world and I can think of many other policy related issues to get all consternated and enemy of the state-y about.
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The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
Being a “tactic” justifies it morally? I guess drone strikes on the border would be a tactic, too.
There’s no humanitarian burden to keep families together while they are detained and deported? There’s a legal burden for due process (yes, even for noncitizens) which is very blurry here, too...court hearings for 2-year-olds being a decent example.
Congrats, though. I didn’t think anyone would actually speak out in favor of this.
lets just put them in labor camps and slowly starve them to death. I bet that will deter them. Cant do the time, dont do tbe crime.
"Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.
It’s over."
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Then I’d suggest reading a handful of the many testimonial accounts of said policy, then check in with what relevant mental health professionals, etc, have to say on the matter.
I cannot imagine taking the most cursory peek under the hood of this and coming to that conclusion. That’s just ****ed up and well-nigh sociopathic.