The Trump Presidency

[sturg33]

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Well, I watched a video of folks throwing rocks at boarder agent. At that point, what would you have them do?

Something similar happened in 2013, by the way... weird I didn't see anything posted here about it

[57Brave]

do tell

[sturg33]

do tell

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https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...v25-story.html

2013: A group of about 100 people trying to illegally cross the border Sunday near the San Ysidro port of entry threw rocks and bottles at U.S. Border Patrol agents, who responded by using pepper spray and other means to force the crowd back into Mexico, federal officials said.

[57Brave]

does this justifies todays actions

or are you just being cute ?

[sturg33]

does this justifies todays actions

or are you just being cute ?

I think today's actions are justified.

If you're throwing rocks at me, you're threatening my life. I asked you what you would have them do, and you didn't answer me

But I put the link there for context and to laugh when you go on a "Trump is fine with gassing children. Obama was amazing!"

[57Brave]

a) Please show where I ever said Obama is amazing on anything least of all immigration

b) this was avoidable

c) it is never justified gassing defenseless women and children

[sturg33]

a) Please show where I ever said Obama is amazing on anything least of all immigration

b) this was avoidable

c) it is never justified gassing defenseless women and children

How was it avoidable? I was told there was no such thing as a caravan?

Re C, what would you have done (third time I've asked)

[57Brave]

oh geez, what would I have done/
Was I one of the ones gassing or being gassed ?



What a silly sophomoric question.
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[57Brave]

but hey, let's get back to real life and you know what happened.
I had forgotten this in all of the horrible things this man says:


LanaLottie
‏ @MysticKnitter
60m60 minutes ago
Replying to @AlbelValentine @chrisshermanAP

Yes, all week they have been talking about this.

Trump ordered the use of lethal force if necessary, and that order

was passed along to US agents at the border.

[sturg33]

oh geez, what would I have done/
Was I one of the ones gassing or being gassed ?



What a silly sophomoric question.
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You say it was avoidable but don't tepp me how to avoid.im shocked

[57Brave]

yes, it was avoidable.
We have known for weeks people were coming here seeking asylum. What have we done?
Militarize the border ? after using refugees as political props
--- perhaps exercise the tools of soft power to diplomatically avoid situations like today ? Perhaps set up camps or worked to divert or possibly intervene in Honduran politics to avoid this and future migrations
And with the knowledge that this happened 4-5 years ago, what precautions were in place to avoid today's events?

I certainly hope that behind the scenes there was dialogue. With this mornings revelation that Trump lied about Mexican cooperation I seriously doubt it.

You never answer question put to you
why ?

[57Brave]

Ben Jackson
‏ @DadoftheDecade
54m54 minutes ago

Tear gas, which is ILLEGAL TO USE IN WAR BUT IS BEING FIRED AT CHILDREN-

is manufactured mostly in America. One of the biggest makers of #TearGas is

@SafarilandGroup- which also made the tear gas out government

fired at Natice Americans protesting the #DakotaAccessPipeline.

[Julio3000]

Being an apologist for cops, and particularly the law enforcement arm of a huge federal bureaucracy, seems like a libertarian fail.

[57Brave]

cant quit thinking about discussions of temperament in Aug - September 2016 ---
( or corruption or misogyny or bigotry or failed business practices or - or- or )
or honesty

[57Brave]

this goes from bad to worse:


60 Minutes
‏Verified account @60Minutes
47m47 minutes ago

The copy of the Homeland Security order to arrest and detain all adults

who crossed the border illegally to seek asylum was censored.

What the White House didn’t want the public to see was that child

separation began 9 months earlier than initially acknowledged.

and again they lie

[sturg33]

Being an apologist for cops, and particularly the law enforcement arm of a huge federal bureaucracy, seems like a libertarian fail.

They were getting rocks and bottles thrown at them.

I'll ask again... Maybe you'll answer, what should have happened today on 11/25 when the caravan crowd rushed the border and used rocks to attack agents?

[sturg33]

yes, it was avoidable.
We have known for weeks people were coming here seeking asylum. What have we done?
Militarize the border ? after using refugees as political props
--- perhaps exercise the tools of soft power to diplomatically avoid situations like today ? Perhaps set up camps or worked to divert or possibly intervene in Honduran politics to avoid this and future migrations
And with the knowledge that this happened 4-5 years ago, what precautions were in place to avoid today's events?

I certainly hope that behind the scenes there was dialogue. With this mornings revelation that Trump lied about Mexican cooperation I seriously doubt it.

You never answer question put to you
why ?

What question have you asked me that I haven't answered?

[Runnin]

How was it avoidable? I was told there was no such thing as a caravan?

Re C, what would you have done (third time I've asked)

I would have them stand their ground and not engage. Any serious military man would do the same. Kid throwing rocks??? Are you for real???

[sturg33]

Twitter now banning people if they say someone with a penis is a biological man

Next will be climate change deniers, I suspect.

[57Brave]