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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    We have attacked Syria which is essentially Russia. We can't be 100% adversarial to one of the most powerful nations in the world.
    Please don't tell me you are this naive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    Also, very convenient Spicer and the administration are now talking about Syria and chemical weapons attacks again now that Trump's poll numbers have reached rock bottom lows just like the last time his poll numbers were low and needed the bump from the bombing response in Syria following Aleppo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    The nation's highest court says it will decide the fate of President Trump's travel ban, agreeing to hear arguments over cases that were heard in federal courts in Hawaii and Maryland.

    Supreme Court Revives Parts Of Trump's Travel Ban As It Agrees To Hear Case

    The Supreme Court says it will decide the fate of President Trump's revised travel ban, agreeing to hear arguments over immigration cases that were filed in federal courts in Hawaii and Maryland and allowing parts of the ban that has been on hold since March to take effect.

    The justices removed the two lower courts' injunctions against the ban "with respect to foreign nationals who lack any bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States," narrowing the scope of those injunctions that had put the ban in limbo.

    Trump called the Supreme Court's order "a clear victory for our national security."

    The president's revised executive order blocks new visas for travelers from six majority-Muslim countries for 90 days, and suspends the U.S. refugee program for 120 days. Challengers to the ban said it would harm people who have legitimate reasons to be in the U.S. — including through family ties, work and education.

    The travel ban will remain on hold for plaintiffs who challenged the executive order and for anyone who is "similarly situated," the justices say — in other words, foreign nationals who have relatives in the U.S., or who plan to attend school or work here.

    Refugees will face similar criteria, with anyone lacking connections in the U.S. denied entry. In its order, the court stated, "the balance tips in favor of the Government's compelling need to provide for the Nation's security."

    Saying the petitions and injunctions "are accordingly ripe for consideration," the Supreme Court said on Monday that the two cases will be consolidated. The court's clerk will set a date for the case in the session that begins in October, the justices said, while noting that the Trump administration "has not requested that we expedite consideration of the merits to a greater extent."

    U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions said today's move is "an important step towards restoring the separation of powers between the branches of the federal government."

    Omar Jadwat, director of the ACLU's Immigrants' Rights Project, called the travel ban unconstitutional, saying, "Courts have repeatedly blocked this indefensible and discriminatory ban. The Supreme Court now has a chance to permanently strike it down."

    In a statement released by the White House, Trump wrote:

    "As President, I cannot allow people into our country who want to do us harm. I want people who can love the United States and all of its citizens, and who will be hardworking and productive.

    "My number one responsibility as Commander in Chief is to keep the American people safe. Today's ruling allows me to use an important tool for protecting our Nation's homeland. I am also particularly gratified that the Supreme Court's decision was 9-0."

    The court says its nine justices agreed in the 13-page decision to take the case and place stays on some of the preliminary injunctions. But several justices wanted to go further — Justice Clarence Thomas wrote a three-page opinion, joined by Justices Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch, in which he said the government's request for a stay should have been granted in full.

    "I agree with the Court's implicit conclusion that the Government has made a strong showing that it is likely to succeed on the merits," Thomas wrote, "that is, that the judgments below will be reversed."

    Thomas criticized the decision to keep the injunctions in place for what he called "an unidentified, unnamed group of foreign nationals abroad," saying it places a burden on officials to determine who has a "bona fide relationship" with a person or organization in the U.S.

    Trump's revised executive order was put on hold by lower court judges in Hawaii and Maryland in March, hours before it was set to take effect. Two federal appeals courts left those nationwide injunctions in place, setting up one final appeal for the Trump administration.

    The White House argues that this executive order, like the previous version the president signed in January, is necessary to protect national security. The initial version caused chaos at airports across the country until it was blocked by a federal judge in Washington state, prompting the administration to craft a revised version that omitted references to religion and specifically exempted green card holders. But that order, too, was challenged by lawsuits, and it was blocked by lower courts before it ever went into effect.

    As part of its instructions to the parties in the case, the high court said today that they should answer the question of "whether the challenges ... became moot on June 14, 2017" — referring to the order's timeframe of 90 days.

    Both of the federal appeals courts that have considered the revised executive order have ruled against the administration — but for different reasons.

    The appellate judges weren't directly ruling on the merits of the travel ban itself. But in order to decide if the lower court injunctions were appropriate, they had to weigh the probable impact of the order and the likelihood that the legal challenges would succeed.

    The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals looked extensively at whether the travel ban violated the Constitution by discriminating on the basis of religion. The challengers in that case, led by the nonprofit International Refugee Assistance Project, argued that the travel ban is a thinly veiled attempt to block Muslims from entering the country, something Trump and his advisers talked about during and after the presidential campaign.

    Lawyers for the Department of Justice countered that courts should look only at the language of the executive order itself, which does not mention religion explicitly. But that argument did not prevail. Writing for the 10-3 majority, Chief Judge Roger Gregory said the executive order "speaks with vague words of national security but in context drips with religious intolerance."

    The ruling from the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals focused on federal law. The court found that the president likely exceeded his statutory authority under the Immigration and Nationality Act.

    "The order does not offer a sufficient justification to suspend the entry of more than 180 million people on the basis of nationality," the 9th Circuit judges wrote. "National security is not a 'talismanic incantation' that, once invoked, can support any and all exercise of executive power."

    The Trump administration moved quickly to appeal both rulings to the Supreme Court.

    "The Executive Branch is entrusted with the responsibility to keep the country safe under Article II of the Constitution," Sessions said in a statement after the 9th Circuit ruling. The attorney general called the threat of terrorism "immediate and real," and said the lower court's injunction "has a chilling effect on security operations overall."

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...ntent=20170626
    Does this say anything different than what I wrote or did you just post it for additional context?

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7809901.html

    lol.

    White House officials did not respond to requests for comment on the allegations or what form US retaliation would take. Several sources across the US State Department, Pentagon and Central Command, which oversees the country’s military operations in Syria and Iraq – said that they did not know what had prompted the unprecedented threat to the Assad regime.

    An official at Central Command told BuzzFeed News they had “no idea” what prompted the statement.


    Several policy advisers at the State Department appeared not to have been briefed before the White House statement went out, learning about the news from reporters instead.
    1) I'm surprised the State Department has any employees left.

    2) Amateur hour continues.
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    David Corn‏Verified account @DavidCornDC 3h3 hours ago

    Today would be a good day for @realDonaldTrump to release his tax returns.
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    Consumer confidence rose in June, with consumer’s appraisal of current economic conditions hitting a nearly 16-year high, according to the Conference Board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Consumer confidence rose in June, with consumer’s appraisal of current economic conditions hitting a nearly 16-year high, according to the Conference Board.
    One would have to wonder what anyone in America could feel confident about. Washington lawyers and the media look to be sitting pretty though.
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    From Business Insider

    Trump and his associates have been trying to cover their tracks because a more recent USA Today scoop reported that “Since President Trump won the Republican nomination, the majority of his companies’ real estate sales are to secretive shell companies that obscure the buyers’ identities.” But, despite these attempts at concealment, Reuters reported “at least 63 individuals with Russian passports or addresses have bought at least $98.4 million worth of property in seven Trump-branded luxury towers in southern Florida.” Eric Trump reportedly bragged in 2014 that Russian investors were funding Trump’s golf courses.

    Such reports, partial and incomplete as they are, make a mockery of Trump’s carefully worded non-denial: “I can tell you, speaking for myself, I own nothing in Russia. I have no loans in Russia. I don’t have any deals in Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Consumer confidence rose in June, with consumer’s appraisal of current economic conditions hitting a nearly 16-year high, according to the Conference Board.
    Jim Rogers predicts that the worst crash in his lifetime is coming this year or next.

    Blodget: And we are in a situation where Western civilization already seems to be possibly collapsing, even with the market going up all the time. Often when you do have a financial calamity, you get huge turmoil in the political system. What happens politically if that happens?

    Rogers: Well, that’s why I moved to Asia. My children speak Mandarin because of what’s coming.

    You’re going to see governments fail. You’re going to see countries fail, this time around. Iceland failed last time. Other countries fail. You’re going to see more of that.

    You’re going to see parties disappear. You’re going to see institutions that have been around for a long time — Lehman Brothers had been around over 150 years — gone. Not even a memory for most people. You’re going to see a lot more of that next around, whether it’s museums or hospitals or universities or financial firms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    Jim Rogers predicts that the worst crash in his lifetime is coming this year or next.

    Blodget: And we are in a situation where Western civilization already seems to be possibly collapsing, even with the market going up all the time. Often when you do have a financial calamity, you get huge turmoil in the political system. What happens politically if that happens?

    Rogers: Well, that’s why I moved to Asia. My children speak Mandarin because of what’s coming.

    You’re going to see governments fail. You’re going to see countries fail, this time around. Iceland failed last time. Other countries fail. You’re going to see more of that.

    You’re going to see parties disappear. You’re going to see institutions that have been around for a long time — Lehman Brothers had been around over 150 years — gone. Not even a memory for most people. You’re going to see a lot more of that next around, whether it’s museums or hospitals or universities or financial firms.
    He may very well be right, and it will have nothing at all to do with Trump (but I'm sure you don't understand why)

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    Trump Campaign Chief’s Firm Got $17 Million From Pro-Russia Party

    The filing shows that Paul Manafort performed work in the U.S. on behalf of a foreign power without disclosing it at the time, as required by law.

    Paul Manafort, who was forced out as President Trump’s campaign chairman last summer after five months of infighting and criticism about his business dealings with pro-Russian interests, disclosed Tuesday that his consulting firm had received more than $17 million over two years from a Ukrainian political party with links to the Kremlin.

    The filing serves as a retroactive admission that Mr. Manafort performed work in the United States on behalf of a foreign power — Ukraine’s Party of Regions — without disclosing it at the time, as required by law. The Party of Regions is the political base of former President Viktor F. Yanukovych, who fled to Russia during a popular uprising in 2014.


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    Oh ****. Now millions of Trumplings will start thinking “Internet Tax” is a thing. Every goddamned day with this man is a ****ing nightmare.
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    That was a really stupid tweet

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    well, under this administration they are now searching books at the airport
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    The situation in Illinois is a real crisis. And should be a reminder that we can't just spend endlessly with entitlements.

    I shouldn't have be called "in-humane" for acknowledging this

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    Amazing: Appears that the barcode on @realDonaldTrump's phony Time cover is actually barcode for software that lets you be a karaoke DJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    David Fahrenthold‏Verified account @Fahrenthold

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    Amazing: Appears that the barcode on @realDonaldTrump's phony Time cover is actually barcode for software that lets you be a karaoke DJ.
    Consider for a moment the mentality of a guy with all of the actual successes that he could use, who instead frames and hangs fake TIME magazine covers in public places where the media can see. Then consider how utterly bereft of common sense his inner circle of advisors must be for there to be no one to veto the colossally dumb idea in the first place. It isn't like he doesn't have plenty of impressive stuff to put there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    Consider for a moment the mentality of a guy with all of the actual successes that he could use, who instead frames and hangs fake TIME magazine covers in public places where the media can see. Then consider how utterly bereft of common sense his inner circle of advisors must be for there to be no one to veto the colossally dumb idea in the first place. It isn't like he doesn't have plenty of impressive stuff to put there.
    It's old. It talks about "The Apprentice" being a smash TV show.

    Who cares? I want to say that my dentist has a fake TIME cover in his office. I've seen them all over the place.

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