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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Thethe: trump is ending wars and bringing troops home

    Actually: trump, we actually will lie that no troops are in Syria and they almost get killed by turkey while doing nothing to help our allies and he announces he’s sending troops to Saudi Arabia

    Lol
    I hate this. All the troops should be brought home and let the cavemen destroy themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I hate this. All the troops should be brought home and let the cavemen destroy themselves.
    I'll bet the Pentagon hates it too. The troops in Turkey were doing more good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    They are different circumstances but they are outlined as such:

    "You won't get your money unless you do xyz"

    "Do me a favor, look into xyz and you'll get your military aid"


    What Biden did was consistent with our foreign policy. A bipartisan group of senators, the EU, and IMF all wanted the prosecutor fired because he was obstructing corruption investigations. The Burisma investigation had been dead for a year at this point.



    Trump on the other hand specifically mentioned the Bidens which does not serve our foreign policy goal of the country. He has been told by his aides and anyone who isn't a partisan hack that this was a debunked claim and he pushed it anyways. That's going to be key. Any legitimate concern about corruption goes out the window when they asked for a public announcement that the Bidens were being investigated. That serves no purpose but to smear Biden. Any competent corrupt person would have asked for a private investigation so as to not appear like a political hit job. Then if there actually is evidence of wrongdoing they could being charges and it would be legit. Beyond that the DoD already certified that "the" Ukraine had taken sufficient steps to combat corruption which was a requirement for the aid to have been granted in the first place.



    Your arguments only work in a setting where you can get away with outright lying. In a court trial they wont be able to make baseless accusations and propaganda without being called out by the judge.
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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rom-tax-dodges




    Trump got 400 million from Daddy, some of it through fraud. Let's hear from the sacred order of truth tellers that are certain they know what happened in a school in 1971.
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    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...doch-should-be



    Why is the OG AG meeting with Rupert Murdoch of Fox News?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    What Biden did was consistent with our foreign policy. A bipartisan group of senators, the EU, and IMF all wanted the prosecutor fired because he was obstructing corruption investigations. The Burisma investigation had been dead for a year at this point.



    Trump on the other hand specifically mentioned the Bidens which does not serve our foreign policy goal of the country. He has been told by his aides and anyone who isn't a partisan hack that this was a debunked claim and he pushed it anyways. That's going to be key. Any legitimate concern about corruption goes out the window when they asked for a public announcement that the Bidens were being investigated. That serves no purpose but to smear Biden. Any competent corrupt person would have asked for a private investigation so as to not appear like a political hit job. Then if there actually is evidence of wrongdoing they could being charges and it would be legit. Beyond that the DoD already certified that "the" Ukraine had taken sufficient steps to combat corruption which was a requirement for the aid to have been granted in the first place.



    Your arguments only work in a setting where you can get away with outright lying. In a court trial they wont be able to make baseless accusations and propaganda without being called out by the judge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
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    Enacting bipartisan foreign policy with support from international stakeholders = acting on conspiracy theories and overt, to say nothing of corrupt, political action.

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    ethnic cleansing happening at the direct hand of trump to allies that helped us fight isis

    i don't have the vocab to express how disappointed in this country and its so called leader i am right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    ethnic cleansing happening at the direct hand of trump to allies that helped us fight isis

    i don't have the vocab to express how disappointed in this country and its so called leader i am right now
    watch Northern Syria very carefully...this has the potential to get a lot worse and to turn unexpectedly

    I have in mind a scenario in which chosen one turns on Turkey...he is dumb and desperate enough to think that will solve his problems
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    Last edited by nsacpi; 10-13-2019 at 05:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I think there's some legitimate conflict of interest which gives their conscience cover. Attacking the President is also felt as attacking their own allegiance to the country. But it could be argued that Trump has very little really allegiance to the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    I think there's some legitimate conflict of interest which gives their conscience cover. Attacking the President is also felt as attacking their own allegiance to the country. But it could be argued that Trump has very little really allegiance to the country.
    the other part is a lot of people who get conned prefer to not say anything about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    the other part is a lot of people who get conned prefer to not say anything about it
    occam's razor will tell us that partisans are gonna partisan

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Trump has said "To hell with the Nobel Peace Prize!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    occam's razor will tell us that partisans are gonna partisan
    Amash really does deserve a lot of credit for rising above the partisanship. At a time when support for impeachment was much lower in the polls. And he's paid a short-term political price for it.
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    The White House on Monday said President Trump “strongly condemns” a gruesome fake video that depicts him shooting members of the news media and political rivals, which was shown at his Florida resort.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/14/u...core-ios-share

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