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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I think approval ratings are virtually useless (because did anybody ask you, or me -- better yet, has anybody on this board ever been polled?) and that has always been my take irrespective of how the numbers tally up.

    But a 10-point jump is really impressive for a guy who by virtually all popular portrayals is overwhelmingly embattled, senile, cheated on his brand newly minted baby mama, and watches a special Gorilla channel.
    I think that Trump has had a good run politically for the last month or so, and that is being honestly reflected in the polling, even while noting that Rasmussen is always an outlier, rightly or wrongly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I think that Trump has had a good run politically for the last month or so, and that is being honestly reflected in the polling, even while noting that Rasmussen is always an outlier, rightly or wrongly.
    Except Rasmussen isn't the outlier here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Except Rasmussen isn't the outlier here.
    It's always been, and still is, the outlier in terms of % approval. The delta has tightened across most polls, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    It's always been, and still is, the outlier in terms of % approval. The delta has tightened across most polls, yes.
    The issue here isn't whether or not Rasmussen is traditionally an outlier, it's whether or not it's an outlier in this polling period (and it's not).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    The issue here isn't whether or not Rasmussen is traditionally an outlier, it's whether or not it's an outlier in this polling period (and it's not).
    Ok. Approval polls are bull**** til they're not. Noted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Ok. Approval polls are bull**** til they're not. Noted.
    I look at the trend more than the actual number... FWIW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Ok. Approval polls are bull**** til they're not. Noted.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I look at the trend more than the actual number... FWIW
    the trend is your friend until it stops being your friend...then it becomes a beetch
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    the trend is your friend until it stops being your friend...then it becomes a beetch
    I am not sure how that is at all relevant but ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I am not sure how that is at all relevant but ok
    it is somewhat out of context...but the trend is my friend is a quote traders like to use...and there are a lot of traders who trade based on technical indicators of momentum in whatever market they are interested in

    that kind of trading strategy can lead to lemming like behavior

    so there you have it

    as for trends in political polls, i suspect that for those of us who have a political point of view the trend is important when going the right way...and when it turns we file it in some dark corner
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    it is somewhat out of context...but the trend is my friend is a quote traders like to use...and there are a lot of traders who trade based on technical indicators of momentum in whatever market they are interested in

    that kind of trading strategy can lead to lemming like behavior

    so there you have it

    as for trends in political polls, i suspect that for those of us who have a political point of view the trend is important when going the right way...and when it turns we file it in some dark corner
    Right - so not relevant to my point at all.

    When I look at polls - I don't care if it's 40 or 45 or 65... what I care about is where it was last month, and the month before, and the direction of the numbers. Trump's numbers moving substantially in either direction is significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Right - so not relevant to my point at all.
    correct...it was a throwaway line
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    jpx??
    I suppose getting the specifics of the magical plan was too much to ask.

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    We scared jp away, which is a damn shame, because his insight is greatly missed.

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    LOLGOP
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    The thing that can get depressing is that millions

    and millions

    of Americas want to be lied to


    by a guy who'd sell them their own spit.
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Trump is about to learn why a smart President

    doesn’t boast about the markets.
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Tommy Vietor
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    Tommy Vietor Retweeted StockTwits

    Trump is about to learn why a smart President

    doesn’t boast about the markets.
    Glad to see 57 doesn’t have a hangover from celebrating the market collapse yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Glad to see 57 doesn’t have a hangover from celebrating the market collapse yesterday.
    It's definitely a mistake for Trump to tie himself so closely to markets. Markets can go down in great economic times and vice versa.

    The problem with 57 is he actually thinks the market decline yesterday was related to Trump

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