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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Is there anything wrong with saying anti fa are bad people?
    To me any hate filled group is wrong. I condemn all people who would rather hate than work constructively together. I know this is a sentence full of dirty words, but like each other or not, we're all still Americans and if we don't figure out how to turn things around and right this ship, who the hell is going to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomahawk View Post
    To me any hate filled group is wrong. I condemn all people who would rather hate than work constructively together. I know this is a sentence full of dirty words, but like each other or not, we're all still Americans and if we don't figure out how to turn things around and right this ship, who the hell is going to?
    The prople are fine. It's the people pulling the strings that are the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The prople are fine. It's the people pulling the strings that are the problem.
    Fair enough, but IMO the prople like having their strings pulled a little too much. It's so much easier than getting our heads out of our collective arses and thinking for ourselves.

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    Post-presser WH talking points:


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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Is there anything wrong with saying anti fa are bad people?
    Of course not and in fact it's concerning that so many on the left and some on the right are defending them. Even Mitt Romney tweeted out that they're basically sweet little angels. I honestly think the lack of outrage over ANTIFA is far more dangerous than the widely nearly completely disavowed white supremacist for many reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    Of course not and in fact it's concerning that so many on the left and some on the right are defending them. Even Mitt Romney tweeted out that they're basically sweet little angels. I honestly think the lack of outrage over ANTIFA is far more dangerous than the widely nearly completely disavowed white supremacist for many reasons.
    I just don't understand how so much of the American people have become brainwashed by the progressive left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I just don't understand how so much of the American people have become brainwashed by the progressive left.
    Probably for the same reason that so much of the American people have become brainwashed by the non-progressive right (and don't even begin to realize it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomahawk View Post
    Probably for the same reason that so much of the American people have become brainwashed by the non-progressive right (and don't even begin to realize it)
    So much that we embrace hate groups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    Of course not and in fact it's concerning that so many on the left and some on the right are defending them. Even Mitt Romney tweeted out that they're basically sweet little angels. I honestly think the lack of outrage over ANTIFA is far more dangerous than the widely nearly completely disavowed white supremacist for many reasons.
    I don't think he was defending them , just a very simple explanation

    Mitt Romney‏Verified account @MittRomney

    No, not the same. One side is racist, bigoted, Nazi. The other opposes racism and bigotry. Morally different universes.


    which was what I tried to clumsily say earlier
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Are we still doing the false equivalency thing?

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    Are you pretending that anti fa is not a dangerous radical group in its fledgling stage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    **** the GOP.
    Because they nominated Trump or because they're unenthusiastic in their embrace of neo-fascism? ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Are you pretending that anti fa is not a dangerous radical group in its fledgling stage?
    I'm pretending that you aren't still talking this tripe in light of what happened this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Are you pretending that anti fa is not a dangerous radical group in its fledgling stage?
    I'm pretty sure I know who's already a dangerous radical group, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    When you hear that Ivanka and Jarred needed to push him to denounce neo-nazis it does get unsettling.
    It's way past the ****ing point of unsettling and has been for a while.

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    I have a feeling some good things are going to come out of Trump being President....just not the things he and his supporters were hoping for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Are we still doing the false equivalency thing?
    I agree with you that there is not an equivalence, but would violence have occurred at all if the violent left had chosen to stay at home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    I agree with you that there is not an equivalence, but would violence have occurred at all if the violent left had chosen to stay at home?
    In my opinion? Yes. Had antifa not been there, there still would have been violence, and one can easily find first-hand accounts that suggest as much.

    I appreciate your good faith response and your recognition of the false equivalence.

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