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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Meanwhile....another terrorist attack in europe.
    Yea...drove a car into people they wanted to bring destruction to...hmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Where does the board stand on this? Will people denounce this type of speech?
    Awful and unacceptable. And they should be removed from office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Anybody?
    The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims is the first result I got on the internet. Qualifies. Your point in asking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims is the first result I got on the internet. Qualifies. Your point in asking?
    Do you think ISIS is in pursuit of political aims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Do you think ISIS is in pursuit of political aims?
    Well that depends on how broadly you're defining "political," I suppose. They and all other radical Islamist groups are most certainly in pursuit of political, idealogical, etc. aims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    i can't find your comment about the terrorist attack in Cville?
    Why are leftists so obsessed with this argument? Every time there is a terrorist attack committed by a non muslim they make this point. Do they hold Islamists to the same standard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    Well that depends on how broadly you're defining "political," I suppose. They and all other radical Islamist groups are most certainly in pursuit of political, idealogical, etc. aims.
    I wonder if a higher degree of specificity is becoming necessary when we're kind of haphazardly grouping the actions of Osama bin Laden, ISIS, the IRA, WUO, and fringe neo-Nazis operators under the same common umbrella.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Do you think ISIS is in pursuit of political aims?
    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaneHill View Post
    Much of Saturday's tension was a result of the illegal march of the Nazis on Friday through the University of Virginia grounds. And it's already been shown that many of the antifa folks were actually protecting people like the clergy that were standing up to the Nazis. Why don't you acknowledge that?
    Based on Antifa's past history this is incredibly naive. The defense of Antifa from the left is flat out scary. Even though the message is disgustingly hateful, You're defending violence against a peaceful assembly. This is fascism. The radicals are starting to win the war. We need to all agree that hate speech is bad, but violence against free speech is also bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I wonder if a higher degree of specificity is becoming necessary when we're kind of haphazardly grouping the actions of Osama bin Laden, ISIS, the IRA, WUO, and fringe neo-Nazis operators under the same common umbrella.
    I think terrorism in all forms should be forcefully rejected. Currently the radical Islamist terrorism is the far greater threat but I don't think that excuses us from acknowledging that while the Neo nazis in america on the surface are a fringe element, it's rooted in an ideology that has held power before and used it to murder people in the name of ethnic purification. And it can happen again if people don't pay attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    Why are leftists so obsessed with this argument? Every time there is a terrorist attack committed by a non muslim they make this point. Do they hold Islamists to the same standard?
    of course i do. Barcelona was a terrorist attack

    the ****ing point is that somehow the likes of you etc don't come out and call this a terrorist attack although it was trying to do the same amount of damage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Do you think ISIS is in pursuit of political aims?
    of course

    they tried and still holding on to land forming a "gov't" and imposing their will on people

    how is that not political aims?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Where does the board stand on this? Will people denounce this type of speech?
    seems you and the other free speech lovers should be rushing to her side

    is she not free to express her mind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
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    No, but seriously.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/r...cwWi3w.twitter
    who cares

    like seriously, who cares.

    oh no, the red sox team doesn't like their past of a ****ty racist owner and would like to change the name near their park. OH THE HUMANITY!!!!!


    had the chance to have Jackie Robinson and Willie Mays on the same team and didn't do it which is still crazy to think about
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    who cares

    like seriously, who cares.

    oh no, the red sox team doesn't like their past of a ****ty racist owner and would like to change the name near their park. OH THE HUMANITY!!!!!


    had the chance to have Jackie Robinson and Willie Mays on the same team and didn't do it which is still crazy to think about
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    seems you and the other free speech lovers should be rushing to her side

    is she not free to express her mind?
    As an elected official?
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    90 year old bust of Lincoln defaced. But have been a slave owner...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    As an elected official?
    did i miss a part here that you claim to say you love?

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press....."


    cause i don't see it saying "unless you are an elected official"

    and why should she play by a different set of rules than the highest elected official in the land?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    As an elected official?
    Well, yes. And her constituents can vote her out.

    Trump was the one who openly called for a more violent scrum. He longed for it and promoted it time and again on the stump. It would be only fitting if he were the one to receive it. With all of the vile and despicable things he has said and done, he's lucky to still have his head. There was a time, some might say a better time, when people would not have given a rapscallion like T so many chances to prove himself useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    did i miss a part here that you claim to say you love?

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press....."


    cause i don't see it saying "unless you are an elected official"

    and why should she play by a different set of rules than the elected official in the land?
    This doesn't have a heightened risk of causing violence to satisfy her request as a public official? At what point is this similar to screaming fire in a closed theatre?

    In addition, do you denounce what she said or are you supportive of calling for assassination of the president?

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