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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    You and the labels.

    Nasty!
    What, are fap jokes off limits? I thought we were free speech advocates here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    It's so terribly divisive to acknowledge the legacy of white supremacism and to take steps to change it.
    So this first step to 'acknowledging the legacy of white supremacism' and affecting meaningful change is to tear down century old statues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    So this first step to 'acknowledging the legacy of white supremacism' and affecting meaningful change is to tear down century old statues?
    Racism ends once the statues are gone.

    America is cleansed!
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    why not.
    The first major symbolic step in getting rid of European Communism was tearing down the Berlin Wall

    They could have left the wall up, I guess.

    History -- you know
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Racism ends once the statues are gone.

    America is cleansed!
    No it doesn't end, but what good do they do.

    Seems in the past week we have seen how divisive they are -- what good is that ?
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    Speeeeaking of Proud Boys, looks like Kyle "Based Stickman" Chapman is gonna go to jail. I'm sure he'll have plenty of time to hone the western chauvinist dialectic in there.

    It just proves the old maxim that that those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, and those with priors shouldn't hit people with weighted sticks. Nor should they taunt the DA bringing charges against them.

    I shouldn't make light of him, since he's one of the good guys, right?

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    and another business person leaving TrumpWorld
    What was someone sayng about how the free market takes care of these things ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    No it doesn't end, but what good do they do.

    Seems in the past week we have seen how divisive they are -- what good is that ?
    Where was this huge outrage 1 year ago? 10 years ago? This is a manifestation of the alt left trying to further divide the people. A divided people are easier to steal from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    why not.
    The first major symbolic step in getting rid of European Communism was tearing down the Berlin Wall

    They could have left the wall up, I guess.

    History -- you know
    There actually are parts of the Berlin Wall still standing. And it's largely for historical reasons.

    Sorry if that shatters your argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    why not.
    The first major symbolic step in getting rid of European Communism was tearing down the Berlin Wall

    They could have left the wall up, I guess.

    History -- you know
    Somebody tried to bring up a Berlin Wall parallel earlier and I meant to respond to it.

    The wall is still up in many places in East Berlin. Pieces of it are in museums all over the world. There's a portion at the Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, CA. I saw another one randomly at a mall in Montreal a few months ago.

    In Berlin, there's a huge museum called Topographie des Terrors located in an area of the city where many Nazi Government buildings once stood. The wall at this location is preserved as it stood originally. Elsewhere in East Berlin there are portions of the wall standing that artists have painted/graffitied with messages of peace and hope.

    Germans aren't afraid of their history.

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    It was there andhas been there. Go back a year ago to New Orleans.

    Go back to Charleston SC shootings

    Go beck to when I would guess most all of these statues were erected -- there have been detractors since day one.

    Ever heard of Arthur Ashe ?
    Read his thoughts on the Richmond boulevard (forget the name)
    Ashe has been dead for close to 20 years if not more

    So yeh, there has been outrage -- you just never heard it. For whatever reason
    Just like the majority of posters here never heard of antifa until last saturday
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Somebody tried to bring up a Berlin Wall parallel earlier and I meant to respond to it.

    The wall is still up in many places in East Berlin. Pieces of it are in museums all over the world. There's a portion at the Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, CA. I saw another one randomly at a mall in Montreal a few months ago.

    In Berlin, there's a huge museum called Topographie des Terrors located in an area of the city where many Nazi Government buildings once stood. The wall at this location is preserved as it stood originally. Elsewhere in East Berlin there are portions of the wall standing that artists have painted/graffitied with messages of peace and hope.

    Germans aren't afraid of their history.
    Yes, I brought it up, precisely in contrast to the way it is presented versus how Confederate monuments are presented.

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    They aren't afraid of their history, and they place it in the proper context, instead of doing what you suggest, by gauzing over it.

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    "As you know, we are not a political organization."

    Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Somebody tried to bring up a Berlin Wall parallel earlier and I meant to respond to it.

    The wall is still up in many places in East Berlin. Pieces of it are in museums all over the world. There's a portion at the Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, CA. I saw another one randomly at a mall in Montreal a few months ago.

    In Berlin, there's a huge museum called Topographie des Terrors located in an area of the city where many Nazi Government buildings once stood. The wall at this location is preserved as it stood originally. Elsewhere in East Berlin there are portions of the wall standing that artists have painted/graffitied with messages of peace and hope.

    Germans aren't afraid of their history.
    So the statue of Divine is actually Robert E Lee in drag ?

    Are you suggesting people can grafitti bomb these erections ?
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Because (supreme irony) we don't want people feelings to be hurt ...

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    The Germans also still conduct government in the Reichstag.

    The Führerbunker sits 100 yards away from a Holocaust Memorial.

    Once a Nazi, always a Nazi.

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    God bless those brave boys in the guard posts. The totalitarian aims of their masters and the rightness of their cause will some day be vindicated.

    /daughters of the Stasi

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    So the statue of Divine is actually Robert E Lee in drag ?

    Are you suggesting people can grafitti bomb these erections ?
    Well, what has been done in Berlin is tasteful.

    I would absolutely support the same type of approach here.

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